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To: sneakypete
The fact is that most people (non-Bush-Bot partisan Republicans) realize that this is a unneccessary war that is being fought for political purposes. Iraq is no threat to the US or England,but they ARE a serious threat to their Arab neighbors and Israel. I say let Saudi Arabia and Israel go to war with Iraq if they want to see Hussein taken out. Why should US military members die and be maimed for life to protect Saudi and Israeli citizens? ESPECIALLY since it is Saudi Arabia herself who is the biggest supporter of the terrorists who attacked us on 9-11. Then again,there are too many elite US families involved in politics from both parties that have profitable business arrangements with the Saudi's that would be disrupted,and none of them will suffer any money losses if we attack Iraq.

The twin sirens of appeasement and isolationism.

Of course Iraq is no direct military threat to us. They are a threat to us indirectly, through outfits like Al Qaeda.

And don't sit there and tell me that AQ and Saddam don't have relations: they do. In the Middle East, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

You want to leave Saddam alone, not because you don't believe that the world would be a better place without Saddam, but because you despise Bush so much. But leaving Saddam alone allows Saddam to eventually develop nuclear weapons. Yes, he could use these against the Israelis. Strictly speaking, that's none of our business. What is our business is that several hundred thousand citizens of a close ally of the United States would be snuffed out in an instant. That doesn't matter to you. It matters to me.

And what's more, the game Saddam could play is simple. Get a bomb, and use Al Qaeda as cutouts to plant one in an American city. Then claim deniability. That is what this entire campaign is all about. The President intimated as much in his State of the Union speech of last year.

You want to take risks with American lives that I am not willing to take. As long as we remain on the offensive, the enemy remains unable to pull a stunt like this off. If we let him live and build his weapons, we lose this war. Period.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

17 posted on 01/25/2003 7:59:23 AM PST by section9 (John Edwards: The Other Empty Suit....)
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To: section9
You certainly understand the reasons for this war. Why doesn't everybody else?
19 posted on 01/25/2003 8:09:57 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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To: section9
You want to leave Saddam alone, not because you don't believe that the world would be a better place without Saddam, but because you despise Bush so much.

Grow up. Yeah,Bubba-2 is a bigger phoney and danger to the Republic than Bubba-1 ever was,but I would still support him if he were going to war against Saudi Arabia. The fact that he isn't,and is going to war against Iraq instead only furthers my contempt for him.

But leaving Saddam alone allows Saddam to eventually develop nuclear weapons.

HorseHillary! Unlike the US,his Arab neighbors and Israel DO have very good reason to fear him,and the instant any of them suspected he was close to developing nukes,they would attack him and take them out. If the Arabs didn't do this,Israel would.

Yes, he could use these against the Israelis.

No,he can't. Israel is the ONE country in the region he can NOT attack with nukes. They have their own,and NOBODY is delusional enough to think they won't respond in kind to the point where he and his whole country are radioactive.

Strictly speaking, that's none of our business. What is our business is that several hundred thousand citizens of a close ally of the United States would be snuffed out in an instant. That doesn't matter to you. It matters to me.

It matters to me,but not enough for our citizens to die doing the job of fighting their citizens need to do for themselves. Despite all the money we dump there that makes them borderline welfare cases,Israel ain't no redheaded stepchild,and we haven't adopted them.

And what's more, the game Saddam could play is simple. Get a bomb, and use Al Qaeda as cutouts to plant one in an American city.

HorseHillary! The other Arabs are a LOT more scared of him than they are us.The first thing he would do if he ever got nukes would be to threaten his non-nukes fellow Arab nations in order to try to join them all together into one country under his domination. Saddam Hussein has been responsible for the deaths of more radical Muslims that all of the western nations combined.

The President intimated as much in his State of the Union speech of last year.

And of course a president would never lie,right? Especially not Ali Bubba Bush.

You want to take risks with American lives that I am not willing to take.

HorseHillary! You are the one wanting to put them at risk fighting a war for Saudi Arabia and Israel,not ME!

23 posted on 01/25/2003 10:17:12 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: section9; sneakypete
Dittos on your answer, Chris.

What hogwash to say that Saddam, who has harbored Al Quaeda since 9/11, and who trained Al Quaeda and other terrorists before 9/11 is "no threat". Do we just forget that Saddam ordered the first WTC attack in 1993? I hope not.

The American diplomat killed in Jordan was killed by Al Quaeda operatives who had links to Iraq. interrogation led the authorities, via their killers, to a terrorist who got 'medical help' in Baghdad and has moved between Jordan and Iraq a number of times. turns out he is the #5 al quaeda leader. That same terrorist has ties to the cell that was arrested last week in London and which had some ricin poison... now where did they get that?

Did yu also know that Saddam has been funding GIA, Algerian terror group, part of which was arrested in Spain this week?

Saddam recently bought euqipment for making chlorine agents, banned equipment via India and useful for WMD chemical warfare -- vx gas etc.

Many former Taliban have been supplied by Saddam and his regime and let loose in northern Iraq to fight tthe kurds.

Time and again, Saddam has given aid and harbor to terrorists. It is said the reason he had Abu Nidal killed this year was that this terrorist didnt want to train Al Quaeda. Saddam wants Americans dead and works indirectly through terror networks to make that happen, including Al Quaeda.

Now, being a terror sponsor is part of why we must take out Saddam, but Saddam's WMB are really why it is Job One.


Saddam as far as ideology and capacity for violence is no less evil than Hitler. Saddam has killed over a million of his own people, tens of thousands killed by chemical warfare - he is a man who bombed Iraqi civilians with chemical warfare and let whole cities die of it. He tried similar with Tel Aviv during gulf war. he started 2 wars.

Imagine Hitler with The Bomb. Do you really want that?

39 posted on 01/25/2003 1:02:13 PM PST by WOSG
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