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Was United Flight 93 shot down on Sept. 11?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, January 25, 2003

Posted on 01/25/2003 1:37:56 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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1 posted on 01/25/2003 1:37:56 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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US considered 'suicide jet missions' (8/30/02)
2 posted on 01/25/2003 1:46:00 AM PST by Orion78 (I hope Golitsyn is wrong)
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To: JohnHuang2
I heard this rumor from Air Forces sources on the 11th, on the 12th no one was talking about it at all. For what its worth.

-Eric

3 posted on 01/25/2003 1:49:11 AM PST by E Rocc
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I love the way the government always dismisses these witnesses.

Sounds alot like what they did when that jet went down over the Atlantic. Flight 800 I believe. People said they saw missle like trails going up towards the plane.

Musta been solar-flares. /sarcasm
4 posted on 01/25/2003 1:49:29 AM PST by Sabretooth (Im from Minnesota by the way so quit complaining about the cold!!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Oh God, not THIS again.
5 posted on 01/25/2003 1:58:17 AM PST by Timesink (I offered her a ring, she gave me the finger)
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why is this "unthinkable"? Would they prefer to think that a couple thousand people in Washington be dead? Shanksville is not far from Washington: ten or fifteen minutes by air. If attacked, the pilots would have crashed the plane.

And some would say that they might have taken it back. Well, maybe. Or maybe with the scuffle the plane might have crashed in Hagersville or even in a populated Washington suburb.

finally, nearly all plane crashes have eye witnesses who later see a missle, and witnesses who see the plane explode. Including many where there was no question of terrorism. Eyewitnesses are notoriously vague.

TWA 800 witnesses were therefore ignored (what was chilling in that case was not witnesses but radar data and a videotape that showed a missle).

The thing to worry about is that the jets who went to intercept the plane DID NOT HAVE MISSLES ON THEM. They were for routine flying, not defense. The pilots were interviewed and said they would have had to shoot the plane down the old fashioned way, or do a kamikaze attack.

6 posted on 01/25/2003 2:02:38 AM PST by LadyDoc
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finally, nearly all plane crashes have eye witnesses who later see a missle, and witnesses who see the plane explode. Including many where there was no question of terrorism. !?!?

What? Please explain.
7 posted on 01/25/2003 2:08:44 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Sabretooth
I love the way the government always dismisses these witnesses.

Maybe they were dismissed because there truly was no other aircraft.

8 posted on 01/25/2003 2:22:11 AM PST by PaulJ
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I think we have a tin foil alert here.........
9 posted on 01/25/2003 2:31:32 AM PST by Nick Thimmesch
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To: LadyDoc
While I believe Flight 800 was brought down by a missle... I don't think 93 was.

We were asleep at the the wheel on 911. IMHO.

10 posted on 01/25/2003 2:39:42 AM PST by johnny7 (It's good to dig up stuff.)
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To: Super Mak90kid
The "rashoman" effect: What we see and remember is influenced by other things, including what is in our society, ideas going around, our worries, our guilts etc.

In the movie Rashomon, the four people all remember a crime differently (a neutral observer saw it a fifth way, and at the end of the movie, one can understand why all the others remembered it differently because they NEEDED to remember it differently.)

It's due to the power of suggestion: a way of the mind to cope with the unthinkable.

I remember a crash in Pittsburg, where two people saw an explosion, but others did not in the "raw" local footage...yet the pilots in the nearby planes did not see anything like this.

In the past, people seeing a plane crash thought of bombs, so when they saw a plane crash, they saw an explosion. After TWA 800, most people are seeing missles, because they think of missles not bombs when a plane crashes.

This is the reason people see UFO's when it is venus, or when we cure with placebos in medicine,, or some holy lady sees the virgin Mary. Ninety nine percent of these things are imagination.

However, when a pilot sees a UFO and the local radar sees it too, when a scientific study shows a medicine works, and when the lady seeing the virgin mary predicts the dangers of communism a couple weeks before the Russian revolution, then maybe a tiny percentage of these things could be true.

You have to separate the wheat from the chaff...
11 posted on 01/25/2003 2:48:55 AM PST by LadyDoc
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This is the reason people see UFO's when it is venus...

But nobody has been able to explain how the planet Venus can make those sharp right-angled turns at thousands of miles per hour that so many eyewitnesses have seen it do.

12 posted on 01/25/2003 3:00:59 AM PST by judgeandjury (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)
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To: E Rocc; Sabretooth
I see no reason for all these speculations. The radar tapes for all these things should be made public, and will prove exactly, one way or another, what happened.

Why do we never see the tapes? Why are they never released?
13 posted on 01/25/2003 3:49:48 AM PST by XBob
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14 posted on 01/25/2003 3:52:02 AM PST by XBob
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To: LadyDoc; judgeandjury
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15 posted on 01/25/2003 3:52:08 AM PST by XBob
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To: JohnHuang2
There WERE military planes hustling to the scene, that has long since been reported and the pilots interviewed on television. I saw this interview on one of the first year anniversary shows. The additional problem was that the only planes they had in the vicinity were unarmed. If ordered to take down 93, they would have had to crash into it! Frankly I think the truth is a whole lot more interesting than this stupid rumor mill garbage.
16 posted on 01/25/2003 4:00:55 AM PST by Cincinnatus
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To: JohnHuang2
Marked for later...
17 posted on 01/25/2003 4:07:09 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: JohnHuang2
I don't like all this tinfoil John.

The reason United Flight 11 crashed was because it was hijacked by murdering Islamic terrorists.

I am not saying another aircraft was not in the vicinity before or after the crash--there probably was. As to the truth of a "Learjet type white plane"--I am not sure what the witnesses saw. The Air Force does fly Lear 35's in a version called the C-21--and it is white. I know--I used to fly the C-21. They are unarmed and used for DV transport.

But this kind of thing distracts from our real enemy---Islamic fanatics.

Those innocent people didn't die because of crop circles, UFOs, or missiles as far as I know. The died because of Islamic hate for Israel, America, and freedom.

18 posted on 01/25/2003 4:08:20 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: LadyDoc
"Ninety nine percent of these things are imagination."

Ninety nine percent of inventions are imagination....

19 posted on 01/25/2003 4:10:12 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: Cincinnatus
Frankly I think the truth is a whole lot more interesting than this stupid rumor mill garbage.

Methinks you're right, amigo.

20 posted on 01/25/2003 4:11:49 AM PST by JohnHuang2 (Jeb Bush/Condi Rice '08!)
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