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This case never should have been presented to the Grand Jury. In Maryland, a gun owner is a criminal no matter what, and criminals with guns go free. Go figure.

Isn't there a law to go after people who deny or refuse to recognize your rights?

1 posted on 01/24/2003 7:48:01 AM PST by Ranxerox
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To: Ranxerox; bang_list
Maryland bang
2 posted on 01/24/2003 7:58:20 AM PST by SteveH
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Some more of the article:
On June 30, 2001, Der and Kifer were on the first floor of the two-story warehouse when they heard noises upstairs. They had been fixing a table for the Mount Washington Tavern, where Der works as a disc jockey.

Der, armed with a handgun, and Kifer, armed with a shotgun, walked upstairs to investigate the noise when they came upon Walker, who had just broken in through a window. Walker, who had no money or drugs on him, was intoxicated and high on morphine, according to an autopsy report.

Defense attorneys David B. Irwin and Leslie A. Stein argued that Walker was brandishing a hammer and said he was going to kill the men. Der and Kifer fired, hitting Walker five times with shotgun pellets and six times with bullets from Der's .45-caliber handgun. ...

Walker had lived in the 1100 block of E. Belvedere Ave. He was convicted of felony theft in Baltimore in 1994, records show. He also had been arrested eight times on various charges in Baltimore between 1993 and 1996.


3 posted on 01/24/2003 8:02:35 AM PST by bvw
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The Der and Kifer case is one of a handful of Maryland self-defense killings in which the gunmen have not been held legally responsible for murder.


Believe it or not, the "gunmen" they refer to here in the article are the two victims, not the intruder.
4 posted on 01/24/2003 8:14:59 AM PST by Freeper 007
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Not the cleanest shoot imaginable, but the outcome was right. This is a victory for Maryland gun owners, and God knows we need all the victories we can get.
6 posted on 01/24/2003 8:25:54 AM PST by blau993
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They shot this guy 11 times! I have no problem with self-defense shooting, but isn't that a bit excessive? I'd love to see if there was any analysis of the angle of the bullets to see if he was still standing though all of this, or if they shot him repeatedly after he hit the ground.

Now, if he was loaded on morphine I can see where he might have been resistant to fall at first, but it strains credulity that he didn't go down after the first half-dozen shots hit him.
7 posted on 01/24/2003 8:33:30 AM PST by RonF
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"Cohen said the men were angry because the warehouse had been broken into many times in recent weeks, including one incident hours before the shooting. Walker had 11 gunshot wounds, including five in the back."

Five shots in the back? Tell me again that this was just self-defense.
8 posted on 01/24/2003 8:34:47 AM PST by RonF
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To: Ranxerox
U.S. Code, Title 18 [US Criminal Code] Section 242

Deprivation of rights under color of law..
14 posted on 01/24/2003 8:54:53 AM PST by freddy
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Tygon Walker

Tygon? What kind of name is that? Perhaps he was a Borg.

Tygon

16 posted on 01/24/2003 9:00:41 AM PST by csvset (Criminal with a strange name ping)
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Bang for justice, finally!
30 posted on 01/24/2003 9:59:50 AM PST by chuknospam
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Prosecutors said the men, frustrated by repeated burglaries at their business, were acting with murder in mind, not self-defense...

How dare they lose their patience with those poor, misguided burglars?

40 posted on 01/24/2003 11:41:10 AM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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There should be a law passed that makes the right to sue void if you are suing in behalf of something that happened to you while committing a violent crime or breaking and entering.
46 posted on 01/27/2003 10:09:06 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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