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Who Sold What After the Embargo? (Blood Pressure Enhancer)
Tageszeitung ^ | 1/21/03 | unknown

Posted on 01/23/2003 5:52:26 PM PST by Life of Brian

Iraq’s declaration of its weapons programs contains explosive news for Germany, a Berlin paper has reported. The dossier is said to detail covert arms deals between German defense firms and Iraq.

Just as the heated debates within the German government over the role of German troops and equipment in a possible war against Iraq seem to be cooling down, another potential bombshell threatens to reignite the fires.

On Tuesday, the Berlin-based left-wing paper, Tageszeitung reported that aspects of the 12,000-page Iraqi report on Iraq's weapons programs, submitted to the U.N last week, could prove highly embarrassing for Germany.

The newspaper - believed to be the first to have access to the top-secret dossier - has written that the Iraqi declaration contains the names of 80 German firms, research laboratories and people, who are said to have helped Iraq develop its weapons program.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: allies; business; germany
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To: Dog
Dog, as I read the article from the link....I thought I read it before; it's dated "17.12.2002." So, I was already aware of the "first" instance of this whole German charade. What caught my eye was in THIS article:

On Tuesday, the Berlin-based left-wing paper, Tageszeitung reported that aspects of the 12,000-page Iraqi report on Iraq's weapons programs, submitted to the U.N last week, could prove highly embarrassing for Germany.

The date of this post was today.....so, even though they're referring to the older article....it's telling me that there's potentially yet more embarrassing information to come out of this......

41 posted on 01/23/2003 7:43:17 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: justshe
We knew it.....we just KNEW IT!

Yep. Wonder when OUR press will start covering this?

Note to peaceniks: Between this and what the U.N. is saying, there's pretty good evidence that Iraq is NOT disarming.

Not to mention, at least one member of the Security Council has been HELPING them.

42 posted on 01/23/2003 7:45:17 PM PST by Amelia (Who's sending missile parts to Iraq?)
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To: Life of Brian





43 posted on 01/23/2003 7:48:57 PM PST by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming!)
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To: Dog
specialized technical equipment to Iraq for the treatment of kidney stones, but which could also under certain circumstances be used as a detonator for atom bombs.

Devices which deliver highly-accurately-timed jolts of juice in precise measure.

44 posted on 01/23/2003 7:49:09 PM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: deport
Iraqi Report Could Prove Damaging to Germany
Iraq’s declaration of its weapons programs contains explosive news for Germany, a Berlin paper has reported. The dossier is said to detail covert arms deals between German defense firms and Iraq.

Just as the heated debates within the German government over the role of German troops and equipment in a possible war against Iraq seem to be cooling down, another potential bombshell threatens to reignite the fires.

On Tuesday, the Berlin-based left-wing paper, Tageszeitung reported that aspects of the 12,000-page Iraqi report on Iraq's weapons programs, submitted to the U.N last week, could prove highly embarrassing for Germany.

The newspaper - believed to be the first to have access to the top-secret dossier - has written that the Iraqi declaration contains the names of 80 German firms, research laboratories and people, who are said to have helped Iraq develop its weapons program.

Germany, Iraq’s number one arms supplier?

The most contentious piece of news for Germany is that the report names it as the number one supplier of weapons supplies to Iraq. German firms are supposed to easily outnumber the firms from other countries who have been exporting to Iraq.

They have delivered technical know-how, components, basic substances and even entire technical facilities for the development of atomic, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction to Iraq right since 1975.

In some cases, conventional military and technical dealings between Germany and Iraq are said to date till 2001, ten years after the second Gulf war and a time when international sanctions against Saddam Hussein are still in place.

The paper reports that the dossier contains several indications of cases, where German authorities right up to the Finance Ministry tolerated the illegal arms cooperation and also promoted to it to an extent.

Wait and watch says German Finance Ministry

The German Finance Ministry has said that it will react to the report only once it has studied the Iraqi declaration.

"We’ll first wait till the report is in our hands," a spokesman from the ministry said on Tuesday.

The spokesman however said that the German government of the time in 1990 had informed the parliament about such German supplies to Iraq.

Ever since Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, there has been a strict embargo against the country. The spokesman said that there have been a few cases of violation of the embargo and the government has initiated investigations.

German military exports to Iraq nothing new

Explosive as the newspaper report may appear, it’s not the first of its kind.

For months rumors have been circulating in the German media of murky deals between German arms companies and businessmen with Iraq despite the rigid embargoes in place.

In October this year, a magazine of the German radio channel, Südwestrundfunk reported that electronics giant Siemens had delivered specialized technical equipment to Iraq for the treatment of kidney stones, but which could also under certain circumstances be used as a detonator for atom bombs.

Siemens insisted that the device could not be misused because it had commissioned an Iraqi company to regularly monitor the equipment. In fact the delivery was even sanctioned by the sanctions council of the U.N. and the Federal Office of Economics and Export Control (BAFA).

The latest newspaper report also touches upon the gray zone between medicine and armaments and writes of so-called dual-use goods that can be used for developing weapons as well as for civilian purposes.

The German government was apparently informed in 1999 of the delivery of such dual-use goods to Iraq, but is said to have turned a blind eye.

German defense firms conduct roaring trade with Baghdad

German arms companies in the meantime have been conducting booming business with Iraq in recent years. According to the German Federal Statistics Office, German military exports to Iraq have been steadily rising from year to year.

From annual exports amounting to 21,7 million euro in 1997, the volume of exports for the following year shot to some 76,4 million euro. The trend continued in 2001 with exports to Iraq bringing German firms profits in the range of 336,5 million euro.

German goods worth 226,2 million euro have already been shipped to Iraq in the first half of this year. Some of the official heavyweights in the export scene are the German electronics firm Siemens with medical equipment and energy distribution systems and carmaker DaimlerChrysler. Both are reported to rake in revenues worth double digit figures in the millions.

Chancellor Schröder in precarious situation

Though the German government has not officially reacted to the Iraqi declaration detailing its role in supplying Iraq with arms, there is little doubt that the issue is bound to stoke passions.

Ever since Chancellor Gerhard Schröder refused to be part of any military action in Iraq before the German general elections in September, Berlin’s relation to Washington has been a strained one.

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder

With Schröder sticking to his pacifist line, but dithering over the level of cooperation with the U.S. in the case of a war against Iraq, the latest report is guaranteed to provide ammunition to the opposition who have strongly criticized Schröder’s policy towards America.

Another real fear is that Schröder’s image as a staunch pacifist might now be sullied if it emerges that Germany has all along been helping the very leader who it has been unwilling to topple, to stockpile his weapons.

The report could also provide the U.S. with an excuse to step up the pressure on Germany to give in to American military demands for deployment of German troops and use of German military equipment in the case of a military attack on Iraq.

 

45 posted on 01/23/2003 7:58:52 PM PST by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming!)
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To: Life of Brian
HERE IS THE RUB.... GERMANS THOUGHT IT WAS THEIR PEACE LOVING ELITISM THAT WAS THE MOTIVATOR FOR NOT BEING AGAINST IRAQ.... TURNS OUT THEY ARE THE REASON WE ARE GOING TO WAR .... THIS IS RICH.
46 posted on 01/23/2003 8:06:31 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather
France has, not so quietly, become the global arms dealer. we used to be the big dog in that regard. Thankfully, we have reduced that foolishness considerably. Our carrier groups are disturbingly vulnerable to the Exocet refined by France. If one or more of our carriers is hit during the coming conflict, you can bet it will be by the lastest version of France's Exocet ...
47 posted on 01/23/2003 8:39:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Yea I would like to see the stats on our close range defenses. I know that missile is a wave skimmer.
48 posted on 01/23/2003 8:48:41 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
"Russia is squeaking but will not oppose us."
... wish I could agree there, but I think history will show that the "grave concern" the closed door session of congress today... was very likely that Russia is threatening nukes, or China, or France... or all three.

I suspect somebody started fueling the birds or opening the silo doors... and push has come to shove.

There is WAY too much trust around here for RUSSIA. Cheney said supposedly during Desert Storm One... "I don't trust them" and I doubt much has changed his mind of late.

We may be fighting an honorable battle as best as we can, with very little hope of toppling the massive, former soviet satellite system... Live your convictions, fight with courage, and if need be, die with honor. We may not win, but we MUST fight for our freedom.

Meanwhile traitor bill goes round the planet encouraging soviet shadow states to stand up the Nation and Military he "loathes." His wife sits on the Armed Services Committee where she awaits her ascension to the Presidency, and he awaits his ascension to the head of the United Nations...

The armageddon couple is alive and well and living in the nation they both desire to destroy... Would to God there were justice in the earth.

49 posted on 01/23/2003 9:49:40 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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To: Dog
Thanks for the ping!

Any drums of "Zyklon-B" poison gas producing pellets on the German export list?

50 posted on 01/23/2003 10:29:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Amelia
Well, well, well. Isn't this special? Things are starting to come into focus, heh?
51 posted on 01/23/2003 10:45:59 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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