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London Muslim Cleric Urges Boys to Be Martyrs
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| 1/23/03
| AP
Posted on 01/23/2003 10:05:47 AM PST by hoosierskypilot
LONDON A Muslim cleric accused of inciting followers to murder "nonbelievers" was shown on tape Thursday promising an audience that religious martyrs would be rewarded with 72 virgins in paradise.
The tape played in a London courtroom also showed Abdullah el-Faisal urging British Muslim boys to spend their school vacations learning how to use Kalashnikov rifles.
But el-Faisal, 39, denies encouraging "others to murder persons unknown," making threatening or abusive recordings and stirring up racial hatred.
Prosecutors say el-Faisal preached across Britain and sold Arabic-language tapes of his speeches in specialist shops.
They showed the jury at London's Old Bailey court a video of el-Faisal addressing a study group not long after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States.
El-Faisal is heard telling the gathering that it is the duty of Muslim women to bring up their sons "with a Jihad [holy war] mentality not to be wimps."
Boys should train as soldiers for Islam from the age of 15, he said, adding, "Is it sensible for you to be soldiers without Kalashnikov training?
"So when you are on holiday from school or college, you must have Jihad training this is your holiday."
He went on, "Even if you are hit by a cruise missile, the pain will feel like that of a mosquito bite."
The rewards for religious martyrdom include the company of 72 virgins and eating the fruits of paradise, he said.
"Religious martyrs are not dead. Do not cry for them. There is a conspiracy against Jihad," he added.
"Democracy is not the way forward. The only way to liberate land and man is Jihad. The way forward is the bullet. Our motto is, 'Might is right."'
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There you have it, children. This is true Islam: satanic, dangerous, hateful. Preying on children to become murderers.
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01/23/2003 10:09:11 AM PST
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To: hoosierskypilot
But el-Faisal, 39, denies encouraging "others to murder persons unknown," making threatening or abusive recordings and stirring up racial hatred.Well, that's all there is to it, he denies it videos, tapes and all. Evidence be damned, you have the word of a Muslim cleric.
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posted on
01/23/2003 10:10:40 AM PST
by
xJones
(# "The best diplomat that I know is a fully-loaded phaser bank." -- Lt. Cdr. Montgomery Scott ("A Ta)
To: hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
Arrest this bastard.
To: hoosierskypilot
AMEN!
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posted on
01/23/2003 11:53:14 AM PST
by
Terriergal
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The tape played in a London courtroom also showed Abdullah el-Faisal urging British Muslim boys to spend their school vacations learning how to use Kalashnikov rifles.
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To: knighthawk
How much is the POS charging for beheading videos?
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posted on
01/23/2003 12:40:46 PM PST
by
dennisw
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To: dennisw
There is a ghastly similarity between this 'cleric' of death and the pro-abortion ghouls in America ... sacrifice the children for the cause.
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posted on
01/23/2003 12:44:25 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
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To: hoosierskypilot
"Stay vigilent, stay armed, and NEVER trust a muslim or a liberal (both are terrorists, differing only in weaponry and technique)!"
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posted on
01/23/2003 1:01:52 PM PST
by
mil-vet
To: knighthawk
I though they had strict gun control laws over there.
Oh well, I guess they don't apply to subversive fifth columnist fanatic cultists from the middle east.
Personally, I think American kids should learn how to use a rifle in High School - that was the case years ago, before political correctness.
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01/23/2003 1:03:33 PM PST
by
ZULU
To: hoosierskypilot; knighthawk; Peach; Fred Mertz
El-Faisal is a Jamaican convert to Islam.
Hmmm, sniper Lee Malvo is also a Moslem boy, isn't he?
To: ZULU
I am afraid you are right.
http://www.observer.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-651699,00.html
AK-47 training held at London mosque
Jason Burke, chief reporter
Sunday February 17, 2002
The Observer
British Islamic extremists have been involved in weapons training with assault rifles at a mosque in London, intelligence sources have told The Observer.
The disclosures that hardline Islamists practised with Kalashnikov AK-47s at the Finsbury Park mosque in north London underline the pivotal role that Britain has played in the recruitment of volunteers to fight alongside Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda group all over the world.
It will also intensify pressure on the Government to crack down on Islamic militants using the UK as a base.
MI5 recruited worshippers at Finsbury Park who opposed the hardline stance taken by controversial Muslim cleric Abu Hamza, who often leads prayers there, and asked them to help monitor the activities of extremists. Early last year the agents told their handlers that several groups had been taught to strip and reassemble Kalashnikovs in the mosque's basement. It was not clear if the guns were live or deactivated weapons, which can legally be owned in the UK.
Hamza, the most influential and radical of the prayer leaders at the mosque, said yesterday that, as far as he knew, no 'harmful' activities had ever taken place there. However, he admitted that he could not monitor all areas of the mosque.
Hamza, who is wanted for alleged terrorist offences in the Yemen, told The Observer that the mosque may have been the victim of a smear campaign by foreign agents. He named Algeria and Egypt as two countries particularly keen to see the mosque shut down. 'They are sending agents to cause us trouble,' he said.
Last month The Observer revealed that a video showing the execution of Algerian conscripts by hardline militants had been circulated at the mosque. Hamza denied it had been used for recruiting purposes.
However, MI5 has been told by their agents that scores of young men were being sent from the mosque for training at camps in Afghanistan. They reported that consignments of supplies including radio and telecommunications equipment were dispatched to Pakistan for eventual distribution in the Afghan training camps allied to or run by al-Qaeda. They also revealed a complex operation run by some men attending the mosque to provide volunteers with false documents. Although the men recruited by MI5 were not directly involved in the logistics of supplying overseas Mujahideen, the operation was openly talked about at the mosque.
Several men involved with the al-Qaeda group have already been linked to Finsbury Park mosque. Feroz Abbassi, a computer engineer from Croydon held by the US in Cuba, was 'indoctrinated' in the mosque, according to his parents. Jerome Courtailler, arrested in Holland for allegedly plotting to blow up the US embassy in Paris, prayed there as did Djamel Beghal, Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid, all of whom have been linked to al-Qaeda by investigators.
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Senior officers with two Middle Eastern intelligence agencies based in Peshawar, the Pakistani frontier city that was until recently a major base for militant volunteers fighting alongside the Taliban and their al-Qaeda allies, said that interviews with Mujahideen arrested by Pakistani authorities over the last 18 months had revealed that many had received instruction in basic battlefield first aid from a doctor who ran lessons at the mosque. They said that consignments of medical supplies, including large quantities of antibiotics, had been sent from the UK.
Hamza yesterday denied the allegations, saying that the mosque lacked funds.
The British sources said they had told MI5 that volunteers who had fought in Afghanistan for the Taliban or for Islamic militants in Chechnya and Algeria boasted at the mosque of battles they had taken part in. Many younger worshippers were deeply impressed by the 'war stories', the men said.
To: hoosierskypilot
Just so that fellow Freepers are under no illusions that this is an isolated incident.
The same seditious, treasonous tripe is being disseminated in mosques and madrassas the length and breadth of Britain every day.
Not for much longer , of course.
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posted on
01/24/2003 12:43:15 AM PST
by
Selous
To: xJones
The Koran says it is okay to lie if you do it to deceive a Christian or a Jew.
Sweet, huh?
To: hoosierskypilot
I feel that the USA government is not doing enough to protect USA citizens from the devils allowed into this country, and if our goverment does not protect us, it may be up to the people to take care of themselves. INS allowed all of the Trade Towers bombers into this country. Americans do not want nor need this savage way of life and all that goes with it, shoved off on us. We are not willing to give up our ordinary rights to pacify them.
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posted on
01/31/2003 10:50:25 PM PST
by
tessalu
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