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RUMSFELD RAPS RELUCTANT EUROPEANS
New York Post ^ | 1/23/03 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 01/23/2003 1:41:39 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:11:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

January 23, 2003 -- WASHINGTON - France and Germany yesterday escalated their opposition to military action against Iraq as "the worst of all solutions" - and blocked NATO from agreeing to offer support to U.S.-led forces if there's a war.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europe; europeanalliance; gulfwarii; iraq; rumsfeld; saddam; saddamhussein
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1 posted on 01/23/2003 1:41:39 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
French President Jacques Chirac vowed, "For us, war is always the proof of failure and the worst of solutions, so everything must be done to avoid it"

If we had had that attitude several times in the past century, this current communique would have been spoken in German, and been issued from Berlin.

2 posted on 01/23/2003 1:47:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: All

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3 posted on 01/23/2003 1:47:43 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Where were these arguments from Europe when we were "dragged" into Kosovo?

France enjoys a business partnership with Iraq. War could cause them some difficulties that they don't want to discuss.

4 posted on 01/23/2003 2:14:32 AM PST by weegee
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To: kattracks

VISUALIZE WORLD APPEASMENT

"Peace in our lifetime"

5 posted on 01/23/2003 2:15:12 AM PST by weegee
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To: kattracks
"The only framework for a legitimate solution is the United Nations," added Chirac

Gee, I must of missed it when you went to the UN to get permission to bomb the Serbs over Kosovo...

What a two faced ass.
6 posted on 01/23/2003 3:26:11 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: weegee
And I REALLY look forward to their exposure!
7 posted on 01/23/2003 3:28:06 AM PST by DB (© This space for sale)
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To: kattracks
If the Bush Administration is holding the Intelligence Cards close to its chest, it is time to put 'em on the table.
8 posted on 01/23/2003 3:34:08 AM PST by leadpenny ($62,944, whose dollar is going to put it over the top?)
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To: weegee

9 posted on 01/23/2003 3:38:48 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: leadpenny
Andrea Mitchell just told IMUS we have nothing to counter Blix's report....this will be fun to watch..
10 posted on 01/23/2003 3:39:11 AM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
I heard that. She also played dumb about the Ritter affair. IMO, there are a whole bunch of games being played right now. Dis, Mis-information, etc.
11 posted on 01/23/2003 3:44:31 AM PST by leadpenny ($62,944, whose dollar is going to put it over the top?)
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To: kattracks
"For us, war is always the proof of failure."

Well, at least they admit it.

12 posted on 01/23/2003 3:55:53 AM PST by #1CTYankee
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To: EternalVigilance; dighton; general_re; aculeus; Poohbah
"French President Jacques Chirac vowed, "For us, war is always the proof of failure ..."


13 posted on 01/23/2003 4:20:37 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: #1CTYankee
So, even if the frogs know their history, they are doomed to repeat it?

Hmmmmmm.

Ok, fine. Somebody has to be Chi Cubs of world power.
14 posted on 01/23/2003 4:50:59 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler
Don't insult the Cubs that way. The Cubs won the World Series twice during the last century. That's a better record than France.
15 posted on 01/23/2003 7:10:25 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Tagline.txt not found. Abort, Retry, Fail?)
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To: kattracks
French President Jacques Chirac vowed, "For us, war is always the proof of failure and the worst of solutions,

I think we're misreading this. He's saying that, for France, war is always proof of failure. This is true. How many hundreds of years do you have to go back before France won a war? It shows how poor their armed forces are, et cetera. It's also, for France, the worst of all solutions because they lose.

Get out of the way, and if you want to leave NATO again, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
16 posted on 01/23/2003 7:15:31 AM PST by sjmiller
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To: kattracks
"For us, war is always the proof of failure and the worst of solutions, so everything must be done to avoid it" -

Commi hypie speak. They'd rather a destructive lie to continue rather than defend the truth at the expense of popularity. Well, too bad for the French. Now that popularity is the object, it ain't the object of America. We have different values here.

17 posted on 01/23/2003 7:21:40 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: BlueLancer
"For us, war is always the proof of failure ..."

Failure? So it's about a pi$$ing contest? Talk about who is a failure here.

18 posted on 01/23/2003 7:23:17 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: sjmiller
bump
19 posted on 01/23/2003 7:23:29 AM PST by expatguy
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To: kattracks
I found this today:

New York Times
January 23, 2003

Why We Know Iraq Is Lying

By Condoleezza Rice

WASHINGTON--Eleven weeks after the United Nations Security Council unanimously passed a resolution demanding — yet again — that Iraq disclose and disarm all its nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs, it is appropriate to ask, "Has Saddam Hussein finally decided to voluntarily disarm?" Unfortunately, the answer is a clear and resounding no.

There is no mystery to voluntary disarmament. Countries that decide to disarm lead inspectors to weapons and production sites, answer questions before they are asked, state publicly and often the intention to disarm and urge their citizens to cooperate. The world knows from examples set by South Africa, Ukraine and Kazakhstan what it looks like when a government decides that it will cooperatively give up its weapons of mass destruction. The critical common elements of these efforts include a high-level political commitment to disarm, national initiatives to dismantle weapons programs, and full cooperation and transparency.

In 1989 South Africa made the strategic decision to dismantle its covert nuclear weapons program. It destroyed its arsenal of seven weapons and later submitted to rigorous verification by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Inspectors were given complete access to all nuclear facilities (operating and defunct) and the people who worked there. They were also presented with thousands of documents detailing, for example, the daily operation of uranium enrichment facilities as well as the construction and dismantling of specific weapons.

Ukraine and Kazakhstan demonstrated a similar pattern of cooperation when they decided to rid themselves of the nuclear weapons, intercontinental ballistic missiles and heavy bombers inherited from the Soviet Union. With significant assistance from the United States — warmly accepted by both countries — disarmament was orderly, open and fast. Nuclear warheads were returned to Russia. Missile silos and heavy bombers were destroyed or dismantled — once in a ceremony attended by the American and Russian defense chiefs. In one instance, Kazakhstan revealed the existence of a ton of highly enriched uranium and asked the United States to remove it, lest it fall into the wrong hands.

Iraq's behavior could not offer a starker contrast. Instead of a commitment to disarm, Iraq has a high-level political commitment to maintain and conceal its weapons, led by Saddam Hussein and his son Qusay, who controls the Special Security Organization, which runs Iraq's concealment activities. Instead of implementing national initiatives to disarm, Iraq maintains institutions whose sole purpose is to thwart the work of the inspectors. And instead of full cooperation and transparency, Iraq has filed a false declaration to the United Nations that amounts to a 12,200-page lie.

For example, the declaration fails to account for or explain Iraq's efforts to get uranium from abroad, its manufacture of specific fuel for ballistic missiles it claims not to have, and the gaps previously identified by the United Nations in Iraq's accounting for more than two tons of the raw materials needed to produce thousands of gallons of anthrax and other biological weapons.

Iraq's declaration even resorted to unabashed plagiarism, with lengthy passages of United Nations reports copied word-for-word (or edited to remove any criticism of Iraq) and presented as original text. Far from informing, the declaration is intended to cloud and confuse the true picture of Iraq's arsenal. It is a reflection of the regime's well-earned reputation for dishonesty and constitutes a material breach of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1441, which set up the current inspections program.

Unlike other nations that have voluntarily disarmed — and in defiance of Resolution 1441 — Iraq is not allowing inspectors "immediate, unimpeded, unrestricted access" to facilities and people involved in its weapons program. As a recent inspection at the home of an Iraqi nuclear scientist demonstrated, and other sources confirm, material and documents are still being moved around in farcical shell games. The regime has blocked free and unrestricted use of aerial reconnaissance.

The list of people involved with weapons of mass destruction programs, which the United Nations required Iraq to provide, ends with those who worked in 1991 — even though the United Nations had previously established that the programs continued after that date. Interviews with scientists and weapons officials identified by inspectors have taken place only in the watchful presence of the regime's agents. Given the duplicitous record of the regime, its recent promises to do better can only be seen as an attempt to stall for time.

Last week's finding by inspectors of 12 chemical warheads not included in Iraq's declaration was particularly troubling. In the past, Iraq has filled this type of warhead with sarin — a deadly nerve agent used by Japanese terrorists in 1995 to kill 12 Tokyo subway passengers and sicken thousands of others. Richard Butler, the former chief United Nations arms inspector, estimates that if a larger type of warhead that Iraq has made and used in the past were filled with VX (an even deadlier nerve agent) and launched at a major city, it could kill up to one million people. Iraq has also failed to provide United Nations inspectors with documentation of its claim to have destroyed its VX stockpiles.

Many questions remain about Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and arsenal — and it is Iraq's obligation to provide answers. It is failing in spectacular fashion. By both its actions and its inactions, Iraq is proving not that it is a nation bent on disarmament, but that it is a nation with something to hide. Iraq is still treating inspections as a game. It should know that time is running out.

Condoleezza Rice is the national security adviser.
20 posted on 01/23/2003 7:29:04 AM PST by DeuceTraveler
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