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To: Pres Raygun
I agree. The decision on abortion should lie with the one who is most affected by the abortion, the baby. When are we going to let the babies decide whether or not they want to live?

Here is my view of the abortion debate in a nutshell:

A) Nobody would advocate killing the baby after it's born. (Well, hardly anybody but we don't care about them for the moment).

B) Nobody wants to ban condoms. (Well, hardly anybody but we don't care about them for the moment).

C) SO... at what point between A and B do you want it to be illegal? That's the grey area.

Personally, I don't have a problem with wearing condoms, or if my partner took a "morning after" pill.

After 1 month of pregnancy, I still think it'd be ok. After that I'd think it was killing another being.
40 posted on 01/22/2003 8:56:55 AM PST by thisiskubrick (may the running liberal pig-dogs be turned into bbq toasties in the sea of fire)
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To: thisiskubrick
Interesting position, but let me challenge you with a few facts. At ferilization, the genetic makeup of the fetus is determined. Although genetics does not wholly determine who a person will become, science has discovered that genetics is a major determinant, not just in physical appearance, but in personality traits, intelligence, etc. Although, science cannot determine when a fetus begins to sense his or her environment or become conscious, there is much more to being a person, than sensation or consciousness. If this were not so then it should be legal to kill a person who is unconscious. People are intrinsically valuable in part because they are unique genetically. That genetic uniqueness is determined at fertilization whether or not the fertilized egg experiences any sensation or not. Birth control that prevents fertilization is not destroying the genetic identity of a person, because persons do not obtain a genetic identity until fertilization. After fertilization the egg if nourished and protected will grow to a fully formed adult with a unique genetically determined personality. An unfertilized egg has no such future.
48 posted on 01/22/2003 9:24:27 AM PST by Pres Raygun
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To: thisiskubrick
After 1 month of pregnancy, I still think it'd be ok. After that I'd think it was killing another being

Why?
What exactly happens between the 29th and 30th day of development that transforms the mass of tissue into a being?

O2

51 posted on 01/22/2003 9:25:49 AM PST by omegatoo ("yop")
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