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The Utter Waste Of Recycling
Toogood Reports ^ | January 19, 2003 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 01/21/2003 3:55:14 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Twice a month I have to bundle my newspapers and take boxes with glass and plastic items down to the curb to be removed and, one assumes, recycled. This does not include the two other pickups for what is presumably just plain old garbage. I am old enough to remember when a person just threw all of this stuff into the garbage can to be taken away. It involved two less trips and a smaller bill from the "waste management" company.

Ask yourself about the utility of recycling. Glass is made from sand. The Earth is not running out of sand. Newspapers, when buried, stay intact for decades and, when burned, become mere ashes. Recycling plastic requires as much or more energy than to produce it. Its uses, however, are extraordinary, contributing to a healthier lifestyle for everyone. So, why recycle?

In 1998, it cost Americans $36 billion to get rid of 210 million tons of municipal waste. It probably costs more today. Part of that multi-billion cost is the additional element of recycling requirements. It´s not like you have a choice. New York City publishes a brochure on recycling that says bluntly "It´s the law."

There is no question that Americans produce a lot of garbage. In the past we buried or burned it, but that was before the environmentalists, Greens, began a campaign that would have us believe there was no room left for landfills, that landfills were inherently a "hazard", and that incinerators were no better because of what came out of the smokestack. All of a sudden, it became very costly to get rid of the garbage where, before, it was no big deal.

The result of the Green lies about garbage was the closing of thousands of landfills around the nation and the increased difficulty of opening new ones. One effort in New Jersey to build a new incinerator ended up a financial nightmare for investors when the courts ruled that haulers could not be compelled by law to bring the garbage to the incinerator, especially if it was cheaper to dump it somewhere else.

The problem is not that we have more garbage. The problem is we have fewer places to bury and burn it. For that you can thank the Greens. This is something to think about every time you separate your glass and plastic or bundle your newspapers, You may feel you are doing something noble for the environment, but you are paying more for that privilege and the odds are the stuff is being buried and burned just the same. The market for anything recycled often proves unprofitable because the cost of recycling does not justify itself.

One scholar, A. Clark Wiseman of Spokane´s Gonzaga University, calculated that, at the current rate of solid waste generation, the nation´s entire solid waste for the next 1,000 years could be buried in a single landfill 100 yards high and 35 miles square. We are not running out of land for landfills. We have run into the lie that they are unsafe. The truth is that landfills have been routinely converted into valuable property once filled. In California there are a number of golf courses that were former landfills. In New Jersey, there are malls and corporate campuses.

In July of last year, New York City suspended the collection of plastic and beverage cartons for a year and the collection of glass for two years. Said the Mayor, "This temporary suspension will save the City an estimated $40 million." Now do the math. If New York can save $40 million by not requiring recycling, imagine the billions that could be saved by cities and suburbs coast to coast? You could renovate every school in America with those funds.

In the end, if recycling was cost-efficient why is it necessary to pass laws to force people to separate and bundle stuff that could just as easily be tossed out with the rest of the garbage? That´s how environmentalism works. It creates a Big Lie and then sets about getting laws passed to mandate it. Years later, states, cities, communities, and just ordinary people begin to ask, "Why are we doing this?" and the answer is, "It´s the law."

It wasn´t always the law. There was a time when landfills were understood to be a perfectly sensible way to get rid of the garbage. Incinerators, too. But that was before the Greens decided recycling was a dandy way to make everyone think that throwing out the garbage was yet another "hazard", "danger", and "threat" to Mother Earth. To which I say, "That´s just garbage!"


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To: Tailgunner Joe
Prudent (heavy emphasis on the prudent!) makes sense.

Certain metals are reasonably (and profitably) recycled, most easily steel, then mos obviously Al and Brass/copper.

Glass? Saves volme, a little energy.

Paper? Not much profit, unless it's demand driven If kept separate, then the mess can tolerated. (Newspapers completely separate from magazines, inserts and mail spearate from newsprint (yeah, right...Like that happens in the real world.) Telephone books in their own box.

Plastics? Maybe, maybe not economic. Depends on type and availability of the local companies doing it.

We recycle seriously, but get nothing from it that even pays the gas to take it to the recycling center. County has a GOOD garbage-to-compost center, but it doesn't pick up recycle items itself. Everybody has to take their own.

But, I know the volume we put out is less (substantially) than before, and thus saves us against garbage fees increase. (15.00/month twelve years ago: 16.00/month now.)

61 posted on 01/21/2003 6:29:20 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE ((I really want to kill that D**M ostrich..... Donate to the nice lady.))
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When I was at university, one of my liberal geography professors did a study on recycling. His conclusion was that it used more energy to recycle than it did to just throw all your trash away like in the old days. Naturally my liberal in-laws refused to believe that when I told them of my professors findings. Liberals don't even want to believe other liberals when the truth is unpleasant.
62 posted on 01/21/2003 6:42:30 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Ford Fairlane
I too live in the country, and I can burn also. I was amazed at how much stuff is flammable. Most garbage I'm convinced is either paper or plastic. Both burn very nicely thank you.
63 posted on 01/21/2003 6:45:59 PM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
You best not try to fight the "families"
64 posted on 01/21/2003 6:46:36 PM PST by OBone (Support our boys in uniform)
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To: ScholarWarrior
I promote Civil Disobedience on this topic.

No need to promote it, it's rampant naturally here in NC.

We burn waste paper in our fireplaces, and throw the "recyclables" in with the rest of our trash.

We know that separating out glass, paper, aluminum, etc. just adds to our tax burden every time we take that stuff down to the government-run recycling depot. Not to mention wasting the citizens' time during the separation, the hassle of storing it, and the gasoline used to haul it to the recycling center.

Better to just bury it and be done with it.

65 posted on 01/21/2003 7:11:08 PM PST by snopercod (Repeal the 17th Amendment!)
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To: snopercod
Permit me a vanity recycle story.

In the 1920s, gambling or liquor were not permitted in WVa. At the Greenbrier, if someone was interested in it, they were referred to a customer who had a house on the grounds. A few years ago, they were clearing the land near this house, and discovered his empty bottles.

It turns out it was traincarloads of now priceless but empty Dom Perignon, wines, and scotch.

The guy was a broker, but I guess made a few bucks on the side gambling, and knew how to live. An inspirational story. I'd like to be someone's archeological site sometime.

66 posted on 01/21/2003 7:19:01 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: Willie Green
Heck. Mexico City just had an earthquake. If there are any cracks, just bulldoze the stuff in to the crevices.

Mother Earth taking care of humanity yet again.

Of course, if she would have just opened the ground beneath the trash mountain, that would have been something.

67 posted on 01/21/2003 7:48:00 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Tailgunner Joe
To recycle or to not recycle
That is the question


68 posted on 01/21/2003 7:52:04 PM PST by Slyfox (putaforkinit)
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To: Pukka Puck
Net the entire process, it cost more money and is harder on the environment to recycle paper than to make it from scratch.

In most cases, true. But in cases where paper may be handled in bulk [e.g. palettes of undistributed phone books, etc.] there's no reason not to.

If it takes one man hour to handle 20 tons of paper for recycling, it can be well worth it. If it takes 20 man hours to handle 1 ton, it's probably not worth it.

69 posted on 01/21/2003 7:53:36 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: Tailback
Your garbage man friend is correct (I'm a former garbage god)except for newspaper, and cardboard. Those two types of paper are easily re-cycled and save on wood that's better put to other uses like houses, plywood, particle board products, and my favorite gunstocks.

Tree farms are capable of producing as much pulpwood as is needed. Besides, if reducing atmosphereic CO2 is desirable, growing trees, turning them into paper, and landfilling them will be an effective method of sequestering CO2.

70 posted on 01/21/2003 7:55:24 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
71 posted on 01/21/2003 8:00:36 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Hoc nomen meum verum non est.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Another downside of recycling is people who wash out milk cartons and canned food containers before they toss them in the bin so the bin out in the garage doesn't attract BUGS.
WATER WASTE.
I refuse to attract bugs into my home and will throw away anything that is too nasty to sit in the bin for a week.
We all know that most of the recycle issue has been imposed on cities and that most of this material WILL end up in the landfill anyway. How about that big truck that drives around picking it up???
73 posted on 01/21/2003 8:03:06 PM PST by aeronca
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To: Tailgunner Joe
 I work for a place that makes a popular food additive. We burn our waste in a Waste Heat Recovery Boiler at temps around 2200 degrees F.

We save a ton of money on waste disposal and making steam from a waste product. But we are heavily regulated and have huge expenses to monitor our emissions. We have computers out of the whazoo to track everything in the process.

74 posted on 01/21/2003 8:03:33 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So ( Something witty, etc, etc....)
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To: Sabertooth
That´s how environmentalism works. It creates a Big Lie and then sets about getting laws passed to mandate it. Years later, states, cities, communities, and just ordinary people begin to ask, "Why are we doing this?" and the answer is, "It´s the law."

And that's the truth! I don't recycle so I don't feel bad about it.

75 posted on 01/21/2003 8:16:30 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (I don't think I'm gonna post taglines again, hahaha.)
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To: Johnny Gage
And my garbage costs more to burn than my neighbors garbage because he lives in a dumpy old house { property taxes is our friend}, such is
the wisdom of the met council. (sarcasim)
76 posted on 01/21/2003 8:19:30 PM PST by justrepublican (Remind me to take out the gargage.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
And that's the truth! I don't recycle so I don't feel bad about it.

Recycling takes time, and that is the one unrenewable resource.




77 posted on 01/21/2003 8:22:41 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Yes, it does. That's why I don't do it, LOL.
78 posted on 01/21/2003 8:29:04 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: supercat
I have yet to see a decent gunstock come out of a pulpwood tree farm. But if you really want cheap pulp, grow hemp instead of hybrid cottonwoods. (that's gonna open up a can o' worms) Seriously though you are correct, there's lots of pulp tree farms here in Oregon. It must be economically easier to use recycled newspaper though, otherwise there wouldn't be a decent market for it.
79 posted on 01/21/2003 8:50:02 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Pukka Puck
IP does not get subsidized paper deliveries from the government. My uncle said they have private contracts with office supply stores and other businesses which provide the majority of their high-grade recycled products.

The main point is: recycling CAN work in the private sector. There are certainly materials which are amenable to do so. The thesis that all recycling is an utter waste is flat-out wrong.

80 posted on 01/21/2003 9:12:14 PM PST by fogarty
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