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To: Drumbo
I suspect there is something going on here other than "increased lawbreaking." The technology to copy music has been around a long time. In Los Angeles, in the 1970's, there was a disk jockey who, every Sunday evening, played one side and then the other, of some hot new album without commercial -- or any -- interruption. He even said things like "Get your tape recorders ready." I'm sure that sort of thing went on all over the country. What's really new here?

They are seeing a big decline in sales. They attribute it to copying. Why should we believe them? They are selling 12 songs for the same price a movie studio gets for a full-length feature film. Does your gut tell you that anything might be wrong there? These are mostly kids doing this... are there other things kids spend their money on now that they didn't before? When I was at the age when I cared who the hot bands were, there was no such thing as video games. Kids only have so much money... I'm sure video games came out of music's hide. Then there's "diversity." That splits the market up and makes it much harder for a single act to sell the kinds of numbers that once were taken for granted.

In short, there are a lot of reasons why their sales might be going down, and I'm not convinced that this Internet sharing isn't just a bogeyman to cover up some bad business judgements.

It's probably always been true that kids have a tendency to flout the law. Illegal drugs are a commonplace in their lives; we all know how we drove when we were that age... it's a wonder many of us lived. Perhaps stealing intellectual properties is just part of the youthful exuberance that goes away when responsibilities arrive.

The music business has been selling drugs-as-recreation for as long as I've been around. If the culture of doing illegal drugs paved the way for doing illegal music copying, then Karma Man is laughing his head off.

No matter what it is, you can't treat as the customers as The Enemy and expect to survive in business. They need to lose the lawyers, and find another way.

59 posted on 01/21/2003 7:17:52 PM PST by Nick Danger (I'm an Iraqi tag. Don't tell Hans Blix where I am.)
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To: Nick Danger
Perhaps stealing intellectual properties is just part of the youthful exuberance that goes away when responsibilities arrive.

As a former pro musician, I go to music boards as well as Free Republic, music was a much larger part of my life than politics. 85% to 90% of the kids who are actually playing music as well as listening to it simply take KaZaA for granted. An article like this one would shock them - they've never considered the legality - it's on the Internet and it's free so it must be okay. I can talk with them all day about Mike Portnoy or Johnny Rabb, but if I were to post this article it would be ignored. It's "too hard" to read and understand all these concepts. One or two might ask why the ISP did this, or why there's a hassle in the first place - but, they are not politically savy - and would not follow the conversation we are having now.

Our kids are busy being kids - and Internet downloading has become a part of their lives and the reason is not criminal intent - it's part of being a kid. It got that way because parents either approve or don't care or don't know.

The music business has been selling drugs-as-recreation for as long as I've been around. If the culture of doing illegal drugs paved the way for doing illegal music copying, then Karma Man is laughing his head off.

Some of the musicians have been selling drugs forever - and the business is guilty by association. The record companies are as oblivious to the content on artist's CD's as parents are of the content of their kids hard drive.

No matter what it is, you can't treat as the customers as The Enemy and expect to survive in business. They need to lose the lawyers, and find another way.

The fact is, when you are downloading it from the Internet, you are not a customer, you are an intruder, or at least and accomplice. If this individual in the article with hundreds of songs posted on the Internet is underage, Mom and Dad are in for an education. Much more likely, this individual is operating for profit to pay the storage and bandwidth bills - he's making a profit on the copyrighted intellectual property of others: a crime. For the past year, I keep seeing people at FreeRepublic defending that as a legit operation to "put-it-to" the big companies and I just wonder where it comes from.

The Lawyers are the last resort. It took years, but, Napster is history. The stealing can stop voluntarily, or the lawyers can eventually make them stop - what other recourse is there? Sell CD's for $5 each? The market sets the price - and as long as someone pays the $20, there will never be a $5.00 CD. If you run a gas station and folks think you overcharge (along with every other station in town), do they have the right to steal from you? Or maybe you should sell product at 50% under cost so people will like you - and stop stealing - how long will that last?

If you speed, you may get caught. For the past five or more years - up until now, if you downloaded music it was simply free music. There appears to be a new sheriff in town Nick.

66 posted on 01/21/2003 8:14:00 PM PST by Drumbo ("Of course I have an attitude, I spent my life beating things for a living" - Drumbo Thunder)
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