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Oh my, you're willing discuss this from a Christian discipleship* point of view, Heb? "You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din."
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*a.k.a., theology, but that word seems haughty to me.

If I may interject something that you may or may not take as germane, I tend to 'lecture' that when the Bible speaks of "civil authority," as it pertains to America, it means first the Sovereign People, first. We are the highest ranking authority in our land (and we elect and appoint public servants by o-u-r constitutions).

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Heb? and MLR "You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din."

[Hebrews 11:6]

...when the Bible speaks of "civil authority," as it pertains to America, it means first the Sovereign People, first.

Can't agree. It is quite clear from the context that we are mandated to submit to dictatorships as much as democracies, at least to the extent that their laws do not contradict God's, which of course is the point. "Romans" was written first of all to those living under the authority of Rome's iron fist.

We are the highest ranking authority in our land (and we elect and appoint public servants by o-u-r constitutions).

True, and we have several means to rise up to protest unjust laws. Unless they violate God's law, though, we are bound to obey them.