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Gold and Deflation
American Enterprrise Institute for Public Policy Research ^
| January 2003
| John H. Makin
Posted on 01/20/2003 10:54:55 AM PST by sourcery
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To: imawit
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posted on
01/20/2003 4:05:10 PM PST
by
arete
(Greenspan is an enemy of the people)
To: rohry
Looks like we're becoming old farts...Isn't that the truth. Of course, maybe we are just wiser now.
Richard W.
42
posted on
01/20/2003 4:09:30 PM PST
by
arete
(Greenspan is an enemy of the people)
To: rohry
I try to read everything Sinclair writes. I think he is very generous with his time in a way that goes beyond his own self-interest. I see $400+ gold in 2003, but I think $840 is a stretch for 2003 unless there is something to the short squeeze theory that Murphy et al keep pushing. I do think we are in the early stages of a shift in the dollar's global role. By the time that shift is over, it would not surprise me to see $1000+ gold.
Regarding registering gold bullion: doesn't sound right to me either, but I have not purchased bullion, only coins. I have never seen any reference to a requirement to register gold bullion.
43
posted on
01/20/2003 4:17:55 PM PST
by
Soren
To: Soren
I love it when the chart looks like this.

Richard W.
44
posted on
01/20/2003 4:22:25 PM PST
by
arete
(Greenspan is an enemy of the people)
To: Soren
"Regarding registering gold bullion: doesn't sound right to me either, but I have not purchased bullion, only coins."
I have bought x kilos of gold and have never "registered" anything...
45
posted on
01/20/2003 4:25:53 PM PST
by
rohry
To: arete; rohry
Okay you old farts. Has anyone looked into the advantage of using your age to dump large quantities into a retirement and beat taxes. A la borrow against the value/equity, perhaps a trust fund for the heirs.
This may be more legal than financial but it's the same game.
46
posted on
01/20/2003 4:30:09 PM PST
by
imawit
(I'd like to have my cake and eat it too.)
To: imawit
"Okay you old farts...Has anyone looked into the advantage of using your age to dump large quantities into a retirement and beat taxes."
No, I'm not old enough to have looked into this...
Maybe Arete can help you, LOL!
47
posted on
01/20/2003 4:43:11 PM PST
by
rohry
To: rohry
No, I'm not old enough to have looked into this... Neither am I.
Richard W.
48
posted on
01/20/2003 4:45:25 PM PST
by
arete
(Greenspan is an enemy of the people)
To: arete; rohry
OH ! Now I'm the only old fart here ?
49
posted on
01/20/2003 5:18:30 PM PST
by
imawit
(I'd like to have my cake and eat it too.)
To: bvw; Tauzero; kezekiel; ChadGore; Harley - Mississippi; Dukie; Matchett-PI; Ken H; MrNatural; ...
50
posted on
01/20/2003 6:05:21 PM PST
by
arete
(Greenspan is an enemy of the people)
To: arete
51
posted on
01/20/2003 6:06:11 PM PST
by
dennisw
(http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
To: rohry; Wyatt's Torch; arete; meyer; DarkWaters; STONEWALLS; TigerLikesRooster; Ken H; MrNatural; ...
Where do I go to register my tenth of a gram gold ingot?
To: imawit
I had a site bookmarked, but windows in its' wisdom decided to delete them all.
Yes, I have them backed up, but haven't put my hands on the correct CD.
There was a link on e-bay gold coins.
I was buying graded gold coins for the price of gold a few years ago on e-bay and used it and the red book.
To: Nick Danger; bvw; Tauzero; kezekiel; ChadGore; Harley - Mississippi; Dukie; Matchett-PI; Ken H; ...
Hey guys, here is a little calculator that lets you figure out how much the dollar has inflated over time. Have fun.
Inflation Calculator
Richard W.
54
posted on
01/20/2003 7:25:51 PM PST
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: Nick Danger; rohry; arete
Nick's comment isn't stupid rohry, and I'll try to answer it.
Gold can spike upwards during a liquidity crisis, because it acquires additional value as money. When you can't get the state's money out of the bank -- and nobody else can either -- you use your precious metals, if you got 'em.
This is happening right now to a very minor degree Japan. Bank finances are shaky, the 100% bank deposit guarantee has been revoked, and so the Japanese are buying more gold.
You can bet FDR wasn't doing gold owners a favor when he commanded them to sell to the government at the government's price. A fair market price to convince them to voluntarily part with all of their gold would've been much higher.
55
posted on
01/20/2003 10:29:36 PM PST
by
Tauzero
To: imawit
OH ! Now I'm the only old fart here ?
LOL! Nope, bud, I'll join you! I'M AN OLD FART! Really nasty ones lately too!
To: arete
Thanks for the ping on this interview. I've always thought that if you felt down and out about gold read what Bill Murphy has to say. Not that what he's said hasn't happened because it has. It just took a little time that's all.
To: rohry
Is that you, brother? Aye,
It is I,
Your other brother, 'Darryl'.
58
posted on
01/21/2003 5:57:51 AM PST
by
dtel
(Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
To: arete
I punched in a thousand dollars from '76 to '01.
What cost $1000 in 1976 would cost $3165.66 in 2001. Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2001 and 1976,
they would cost you $1000 and $315.89 respectively.
I used that figure because that it the princely sum I was making as a motorcycle mechanic/shop manager. $6.25 per hour. (This was an entry level wage for a highly talented kid right out of high school.) ;^)
For the job to have kept up with inflation it would now pay $19.69 per hour. Or from 12K a year to 37.8K.
Inflation sux. Wages never keep up.
59
posted on
01/21/2003 6:17:47 AM PST
by
dtel
(Texas Longhorn cattle for sale at all times. We don't rent pigs)
To: arete
Speaking of inflation, I don't think the Fed let's it get too far above $385-$400. Now that they have "apparently" (and I say that with extreme reservation) gotten it on the deflation wreckage they brought us over the last 5 years, and reflated gold to it's historical average, I think that they will continue with this path.
Of course, they could have just stumbled across the necessary fix and not know how they caused it...;-)
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