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Ramon bombed Iraqi reactor in '81
The Jerusalem Post ^ | Jan. 17, 2003 | JUDY SIEGEL-ITZKOVICH

Posted on 01/18/2003 12:59:55 PM PST by yonif

Israel's first astronaut, mission payload specialist Col. Ilan Ramon, is a career fighter pilot who bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981, a senior official said.

The attack, in which eight IAF F-16 warplanes obliterated the French-built Osiraq reactor near Baghdad, was a milestone in Israeli aviation history because the planes flew over enemy Arab territory for hours without detection.

The pilots flew in a tightly bunched formation to send off a radar signal like that of a large commercial airliner.

In 1998, an Iraqi defector claimed the Israeli attack spurred Saddam Hussein to speed up plans to build a nuclear bomb.

Meanwhile, with the Columbia space shuttle successfully launched on Thursday, Ramon, 48, will focus on carrying out a series of scientific experiments.

Among the materials taken along are genetically engineered adult stem cell cultures, which will be used for an experiment prepared by scientists from the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

It focuses on building new, specialized cells by isolating adult stem cells taken from bone marrow and converting them into bone, cartilage, or tendon cells by introducing specific genes into them.

The experiment will advance the stem cell work of Prof. Dan Gazit of the skeletal biotechnology laboratory at HU's Faculty of Dental Medicine. Gazit and his wife Dr. Sulma Gazit are guests of the US National Aeronautics and Space Agency and witnessed the launch of the space shuttle.

The shuttle crew will examine the influence of weightlessness on the creation of bone cells in space as compared to their development on earth. The findings are likely to have bearing on understanding the mechanisms involved in development of osteoporosis in astronauts and also the molecular influences involved in creating bone cells in space and on earth.

Ramon, a mechanical engineering graduate of Tel Aviv University, will be on board with his fellow astronauts for 16 days.

TAU has scheduled a special mid-mission conference call between university scientists and journalists on Monday to update them on the team's experiments. Among these is the Mediterranean Israeli Dust Experiment, which will include five of the seven astronauts on board and a crew in a specially outfitted plane flown in the footsteps of the orbiting space shuttle Columbia while it flies over the Mediterranean Sea. They will simultaneously take measurements and study the effect of dust particles on climate change.

Meanwhile, in a speech delivered by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to the Scientific Club of the Association of the Friends of the Weizmann Institute, he said he was pleased to send greetings to Israel's first astronaut.

A few minutes before arriving at the meeting, he had a phone conversation with Ramon, whom he described as "a man busting with national pride."

"Col. Ramon's flight and his mission into space are a source of honor to us all, and his success is yet another step in Israel's integration into the space age. We wish him and the entire crew of the Columbia space shuttle success in their mission and a safe return home," said Sharon. President Moshe Katsav sent a microfiche Bible the size of a credit card to Ramon to take with him on his shuttle mission.

Katsav wished Ramon success and said Ramon will also conduct experiments for Israeli institutions. Ramon's father gave him some family photos to take into space, and a brother gave him a letter to read in orbit.

Israel's own two-decade old space program has been beset by costly failures, most notably the aborted launch of a $50 million spy satellite in 1998.

Greer Fay Cashman contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: counterterrorism; iaf; idf; iraq; israel
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To: Bobby777
Well, actually - there was one shot down. In Alaska no less.
By another F15!

hoo-ah
61 posted on 01/18/2003 8:35:59 PM PST by ASOC
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To: Servant of the Nine
You must have once been "Seven of Nine".
62 posted on 01/18/2003 8:38:52 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: ASOC
details please!!! accidental, obviously? ... there was a British guy in WWII I think who was going to film his wingman, but the selector was on "gun" rather than "camera" and he shot his wingman down! (the guy survived) ... ouch!
63 posted on 01/18/2003 8:43:10 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: jo6pac
Fog of war.
How many friendly fire incidents has the US been involved in in the last 2 years?
I count 3.
64 posted on 01/18/2003 8:48:30 PM PST by rmlew
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To: Bobby777
right on. Two wing nuts were getting ready to do some air to air combat training - one was the Wing King.
They called tallyho and off they went. Seems one of the 'dummy' sidewinders was not so dumb and the Wing King got his @ss shot off.
Sooooo funny...in an expensive as heck sort of way.

This was way back in the 80s. LOL

Hoo-ah
66 posted on 01/18/2003 9:02:04 PM PST by ASOC
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To: sheik yerbouty
Nope, different Freeper, different derivation of the name.

So9

67 posted on 01/18/2003 9:03:11 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: rmlew
First it was "Either the CIA set up the Liberty, or it was spying and was attacked", now it's "fog of war."

Will this be your last word on explaining it away?

68 posted on 01/18/2003 9:11:22 PM PST by jo6pac
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To: mach.08
I must disagree with you. I can forgive a soldier doing his duty, but not a war criminal. There must be no statute of limitations for these monsters. Hunt them down, try them and punish them - just like Eichmann.
69 posted on 01/18/2003 9:14:23 PM PST by jo6pac
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To: ASOC
ouch ... that reminds me of a little story from the early 90's ... I was developing software for a Health Care Provider and one of our consultants picked up Micro Prose F-15 Strike Eagle III ... not a bad program ... since he and I both had dual telephone lines, we'd play head-to-head while chatting over the speakerphones on line 2 ... sometimes we flew wingman configurations, favorite target Iraq (this was 1993) ... on the way back from yet another successful "mission" (hehe), I had a couple AMRAAM's left .. I was following and started feeling a bit onery so I painted him as a hostile target and let the (autonomous) AMRAAM go ... he starts screaming that he's got an incoming missile to which I suggest immediate evasive action ... but it was too late and the missile got him in a dive ... after he hit the chutes I 'fessed up ... hehe ...

a few weeks later, he slid in behind me on the way home, and let me have it with some cannon fire ... he got me back ... hehe ... gee whiz, you shoot down your wingman and they take it personal ... LOL ... we had a lot of fun with that game ... and I was on my 486DX-33 ... whew, high-tech ... LOL ...
70 posted on 01/18/2003 9:24:08 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: mach.08
There isa huge difference between killing a soldier on the battlefield and committing genocide by slaughtering civilians.
I'm sorry you don't see the difference.
71 posted on 01/18/2003 11:27:51 PM PST by rmlew
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To: jo6pac
First it was "Either the CIA set up the Liberty, or it was spying and was attacked", now it's "fog of war."

Where is the inconsistancy. The first two reffer to the actions of our government. The final reffers to the actions of the Israelis.

72 posted on 01/18/2003 11:31:40 PM PST by rmlew
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To: mach.08
I wrote:
"There is a huge difference between killing a soldier on the battlefield and committing genocide by slaughtering civilians. I'm sorry you don't see the difference."

mach.08 responded
Jeesh, you have a pitiful ,hate-filled bias regarding this subject,so the tribe uncorking the nuclear genie at Los Alamos were not MONSTERS????
What tribe did this? You are blaming all Jews for this?
At any rate, the A-Bomb saved lives uin WW2.

The act of pummeling civilians was at Dresden not an act of a monster????
If you will note, Field Marshall Arthur "Bomber" Harris was reviled after the war.
Personally, I am appalled by the night bombing campaings of the British in Europe and the Us in Japan. However, the US did try precision daylight bombing. Admittedly, this was not very precise, but the attmpt was made to hit factories, not civilians. I see a real moral difference here.

Excuse me, but WW2 was not about hand to hand combat on the battlefield. An I don't appreciate your attempts at minimizing our soldiers deaths on the battlefield.
Excuse me, but soldier are supposed to die in war. It sucks, but is part of life.

Did it ever occur to you that our B-17s played a huge role in cutting off, fresh water, food, (most life sustaining support systems)to ALL the people of GERMANY, They were under seize from the whole world, so why is it a mystery to you that the conditions of these POW camps would be nothing less than deplorable.


Excuse me, but I'm talking about the DEATH CAMPS, not the POW facilities. I'm talking about the intentional slaughter of civilians done on a personal level.

I'm truly sorry for ALL the humans who received extremely undignified treatment in the conflict, but it was WAR,and to pompously come on THIS forum and tell me that your relatives lives were more important than mine, especilly when mine were engaged in saving yours, is pitifull.

Huh? Saving Jews was never a goal of the US in World War 2. Hell, we failed to even bomb the train tracks leading to death camps.

75 posted on 01/19/2003 2:44:43 PM PST by rmlew
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To: mach.08
WTF.
We are talking about German SS troops, not Wermacht.
76 posted on 01/19/2003 2:45:56 PM PST by rmlew
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To: jo6pac
Sieg Heil, Jackass!
77 posted on 01/19/2003 2:55:56 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Sieg Heil to you also. It is facinating the way you volks try to conceal your anti-Semitism behind "freedom of speech". Something your kind didn't allow in Germany in the 30's and 40's.
78 posted on 01/19/2003 2:59:43 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Redleg Duke
Sieg Heil to you also. It is facinating the way you volks try to conceal your anti-Semitism behind "freedom of speech". Something your kind didn't allow in Germany in the 30's and 40's.

You are truely despicable. You label anyone who does not agree with your every thought an anti-semite.

I am not an anti-semite, but an anti-zionist. Can you understand te difference or is your mind corrupted completely by agitprop? I wish to move all middle eastern jews to the US. Grant them instant citizenship and have doen with the bone of contention that is Israel.

79 posted on 01/19/2003 3:36:44 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
"You label anyone who does not agree with your every thought an anti-semite."

No, I reserve that for really special people, like you. To categorize someone as "Zionist" is a give-away of your basic anti-Semetism. You just try to dress it up with that term "anti-Zionism", but the facts speak for themselves.

And yes, in your pathetic mindset, I am truely dispicable. But then again, that is your pathetic, anti-Semetic mindset. I hope your brown shirt and jackboots aren't too uncomfortable, Adolph!

80 posted on 01/19/2003 6:21:00 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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