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Explosive Evidence Found In A 13th-Century Shipwreck Off The Coast Of Japan (Kublia Khan)
The Times (UK) ^ | 1-17-2002 | Norman Hammond

Posted on 01/17/2003 3:32:10 PM PST by blam

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The first hand grenades?
1 posted on 01/17/2003 3:32:11 PM PST by blam
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2 posted on 01/17/2003 3:34:11 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: blam
Cool ( in my best Butthead voice)

"shrapnel filled projectile bombs" sound more like mortar rounds than hand grenades.

3 posted on 01/17/2003 3:44:34 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const vector<tags>& obsoleteTags)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; blam
I think you meant to say Kewwwlllll !!!!

Thanks blam.

5 posted on 01/17/2003 3:52:18 PM PST by happygrl
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6 posted on 01/17/2003 3:59:31 PM PST by Eaker (I assemble automatic weapons in my sleep.......no wonder they never work!!!!!!. . . . .;>)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
mortar? did they have cannons?
7 posted on 01/17/2003 4:02:09 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: blam
Bump
8 posted on 01/17/2003 4:02:23 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tag Line Service Center: FREE Tag Line with Every Monthly Donation to FR. Get Yours. Inquire Within)
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To: blam
It was a miracle of rare device.....
9 posted on 01/17/2003 4:07:00 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: blam
great article....maybe this will be the best year yet for great finds!
10 posted on 01/17/2003 4:07:12 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
""shrapnel filled projectile bombs" sound more like mortar rounds than hand grenades."

Probably. I thought that I had read in another source that there was a picture (painting/etching?) that showed these objects in-hand. (This is the 2nd-3rd report I've read on this find). I'll look around a little.

11 posted on 01/17/2003 4:10:12 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Looks like sophisticated warfare for that era. Would look great in a movie. With lotsa catapults, gun powder and divine winds.
12 posted on 01/17/2003 4:12:51 PM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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yo
13 posted on 01/17/2003 4:14:12 PM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: eddie willers
ARTHUR: Three. Three. And we'd better not risk another frontal assault. That rabbit's dynamite.

ROBIN: Would it help to confuse it if we run away more?

ARTHUR: Oh, shut up and go and change your armour.

GALAHAD: Let us taunt it! It may become so cross that it will make a mistake.

ARTHUR: Like what?

GALAHAD: Well... ooh.

LAUNCELOT: Have we got bows?

ARTHUR: No.

LAUNCELOT: We have the Holy Hand Grenade.

ARTHUR: Yes, of course! The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch! 'Tis one of the sacred relics Brother Maynard carries with him. Brother Maynard! Bring up the Holy Hand Grenade!

MONKS: [chanting] Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem. Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem. Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem. Pie Iesu domine, dona eis requiem.

ARTHUR: How does it, um-- how does it work?

LAUNCELOT: I know not, my liege.

ARTHUR: Consult the Book of Armaments!

BROTHER MAYNARD: Armaments, chapter two, verses nine to twenty-one.

SECOND BROTHER: And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy.'

And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and large chu--

MAYNARD: Skip a bit, Brother.

SECOND BROTHER: And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'

MAYNARD: Amen.

KNIGHTS: Amen.

ARTHUR: Right! One!... Two!... Five!

GALAHAD: Three, sir!

ARTHUR: Three!

[rabbit dies]
14 posted on 01/17/2003 4:23:52 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
LOL. I only found this previous posting I made. No hand grenades here either. Oh well.

Archaeologists Find Wreck Of Kamikaze (Kublai Khan)

15 posted on 01/17/2003 4:34:34 PM PST by blam
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To: dennisw
Thanks for the ping. This is very interesting, because gunpowder and other breakthroughs in Western warfare came from the Orient. We just modified them and made it better. We used our dynamic mix of ingredients as a civilization (capitalism, free thought, free inquiry, disciplined ranks, etc.) to conquor the world.
18 posted on 01/17/2003 9:02:22 PM PST by Sparta (Statism is a mental illness)
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To: eddie willers
It was a miracle of rare device.....

In Xanadu. In the pleasure dome. It was a poetic fragmentation grenade.

19 posted on 01/17/2003 9:29:34 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: ruoflaw
Maybe I interpreted "projectile" a bit generously...
20 posted on 01/17/2003 9:47:23 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const vector<tags>& obsoleteTags)
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