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Puerto Rico governor says U.S. shouldn't close Vieques base
AP | 1/16/03 | RICARDO ZUNIGA

Posted on 01/16/2003 1:50:07 PM PST by kattracks

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To: 4Freedom
Bulldung. Your "spin" has the Hildebeast's schizophrenic slime dripping all over it.
Go slither back under your marxist revolutionary rock.
121 posted on 01/18/2003 12:57:46 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Your Liberal plan won't work. Throwing more billions at Puerto Rico won't fix anything. Their problem isn't a lack of money or infrastructure. Their problem is they're socialists/marxists.

They have a bankrupt socialized medicine plan and the government still owns the electric company and operates at a loss. Our tax dollars make that possible. We need to take those dollars away, so Puerto Rico is forced to make sound business decisions.

All our dollars have done is inflate the price of property in Puerto Rico. Homes that should sell for $50,000 sell for $150,000.

They lease property to Sam's Club, Costco, Walmart, K-Mart, Sears, J.C. Penneys, The Home Depot, etc. for as much as $250,000 per month and those high costs are reflected in the price of merchandise. These stores are the top sellers in the chain nationwide in spite of those costs and our tax dollars make that possible.

Every fast-food joint sells more fast-food in Puerto Rico per store than anywhere in the United States. Let them eat at home more often to save money.

Puerto Ricans buy 100,000 to 120,000 new cars each year and there are almost 2 million vehicles on the roads there. Let them park some of those cars and take public transportation. Let them keep their cars a couple of extra years before they trade them in. There are a lot of things they can do to save money.

Puerto Ricans pay NO property taxes and NO sales taxes.

They're having a party down there and we're paying for it.

This is the answer and anyone that doesn't believe it, but instead believes giving Puerto Rico 'the bomb' is the answer should be institutionalized.

122 posted on 01/18/2003 2:10:50 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
dang...i enjoyed the black angus so!! ;)
123 posted on 01/25/2003 5:41:39 PM PST by chasio649
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To: marron

You have some good points. However I am gringo and grew up in DC and have lived in PR now for 6 yrs.
Your perception that the Popular party here is like US democrats is wrong. They do try to project that political image, but they are anti US socialists, not democrats.

This island became a US territory because people were starving to death en masse and they asked for help. Due to current media being owned and controlled by the Red Party scumbags, they retell the story now via the media and college campus propaganda, hence turning the majority of Ricans against the US by blaming them for all the governemnt corruption here, instead of going after the real culprits, the Red Party. What Sila wanted was to reconstruct who was getting the money, and it backfired. She wanted in her constituaents hands. Their goal is just like castro's. Poverty and the ignorance that comes with it, while blaming someone else for their own idiocies.
Here the people are being told a farce for island history, and believe every lie anti US haters invent.

The Red Party(Sila's party) started and owns the telephone company, the water company, the power company, agricultural conglomorates, shipping companies, and many other industries they totally monopolize. I am opening a small fish farm here and they have pulled every trick int ehbook to keep a gringo from succeeding, i have never seen such abuse of power. They don't repsond to my requests for permits, and agricutlure dep. involvement, they cut my power, tried to charge me for water use when I didn't live here and cut my water supply, and r flat corrupt. Meanwhile a corrupt constituent of theirs in the same business makes fish forum posts to mock at me for it. In other words, another red party illegal monopoly. Now is that democracy??? Do they stand for what they decry in others??? Hell no. My family is 2/3 puerto rican. Os right now they are opressing their own thinking they r opressing an american only. I hate them and despise all they stand for. I wish ricans in the US would stnad up and lobby against this corrupt crap. enuf is friggin enuf. Which is nicer, the states or this island???? Which would you trather be??? enuf bs already, let's become a state, support the armed forces, and kick out the anti US scumbags.

The people here are economically opressed due to it, and they use the media and a corrupt court system they own to project the blame for that onto US or Blue party corruption, when the problem is right here in their own backyard, wearing a red dress. Ever heard the song "Devil in the Red Dress"?

Her successor, anabel, is even worse. The guy's smile is so fake it has to glued on. He spends most of his time meeting with utilities companies to arrange $$$$ for his party. Power prices have tripeld since the Red party took over in 2000. My meter charges me for almost triple what I use.(I am an electricla engineer and measured it myself). If I dont pay they cut it off. If I call the utilities commission here noone answers and no calls get returned. Yet they take home paychecks. Phone prices have almost doubled. Water more than doubled, and tolls have tripled. Yet they had to close the public schools due to no funds, and that was blamed on the US and blue party folks somehow.

This island has been taken over by sociliasts wearing a red dress, and most of the inhabitants here want to be a state, but get duped in the campaigns. Last governor election one green party candidate gave all his votes to the losing red party candidate (illegal) and they won over the winning blue party official. The courts here determined that that was legal???? WTF?????!!!!!!! They own the local courts, that is why the FBI and CIA get such a hard time. Even the DEA can't do it's job with these scumbags in power. It would be no different that in the closing moments of a US election the independent party leader taking all the votes he got and giving them to another party. Would that be legal? Hell no! The red party leaders are criminals and we need hlep down here to put them in jail where they belong. 30% of the economy here is owned by the government via red party scnadals and abuse of power. the result is the people here are abused and it gets blamed on US corruption. the people here believe those lies.
I was tlkaing to rican friend, who lives in arizona, and the topic of the power ocmpany corruption came up,a nd he said, "Yeah but you know all that is US politicians???" I was shocked. what an idiot. It is his own people who are corrupt and lying thru their teeth.
The new governor, has sold off public park land to his business freinds liek his own personal property, and recently sold the UPR theater (a community owned thaeter for decades) to his buddies. Yet it is getting blamed on the US somehow in the twisted news here. The ricna people r decent people and don't deserve this crap, the vast majority of them would prefer statehood to independence, but when they have to run against two parties who can combine votes, what can they do?????


124 posted on 09/20/2006 10:56:18 AM PDT by junglegeorge (u r right)
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To: 4Freedom

"They have a bankrupt socialized medicine plan and the government still owns the electric company and operates at a loss"--that statement is false, it is so corrupt it is ridiculous. I am an electrical engineer. The red party is stealing over $100/mo off of each meter. that's over $400 million per month. Now on paper, they make it look failed, but that's bs.

there r a bunch of misinformed activists here hwo decry nuclear power as environmentally dangerous, meanwhile they pump fuel exahust and mountains of carbon ash int oe thair daily, causing masssive allergies, asthma, and skin elsions and complications. I had to take my son to the hospital twice this year due to it. The doctor pointed to the emergncy room full of folks, and said 80% of the people there were sick for the same reason.

we need wind power, it aint gonna fall in a cane, they can be lowered by motorized cranks in minutes and raised right bakc up in minutes. Nuclear power is safe now. The guys who worry about it r just being paranoid due to spill from very old technology that doesnt even exist anymore. They prefer pumping mountains of ashi nto the air daily and blaming it on the cement company, when they simpyl use the ash in the cement to helop get rid of it. The real enviro issue onthe island right now is the coal plant sila's hubby built in Guayama, and the corruypt deal they had to dump the ash in Dominican rep., that got overturned in a US court. No the ash is piling up and blwing into our kid's lungs. menawhile the red party media here won't adress the real problem. They r owned slaves of the socialist revolution. We need different media down here desperately.


125 posted on 09/20/2006 11:12:24 AM PDT by junglegeorge (u r right)
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To: kattracks
Gov. Sila Calderon, who had pressed for a halt to the training, said Wednesday that her government will lobby for the base to remain open. With some 4,800 employees and temporary contractors, Roosevelt Roads is one of Puerto Rico's largest employers.

Life's a b*tch, honey. Just make sure you want what you ask for.

126 posted on 09/20/2006 11:21:46 AM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: AuH2ORepublican
I'm not happy about it, and neither is any right-thinking Puerto Rican.

Well then...I guess the whole lot of you should be more careful what you wish for(which is what happens when you vote.)

127 posted on 09/20/2006 11:30:48 AM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: junglegeorge

You joined today to just to bump this three year old thread?


128 posted on 09/20/2006 11:32:30 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: grammymoon
The Gov is an idiot and now she is getting the screws put to her-Good-It irrited me to no end that she and the other morons were basically slapping the US in the face,it is just too bad for the Puerto Rican people who will pay the price.

Help me here...was she put in office as the result of a coup?

129 posted on 09/20/2006 11:38:03 AM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: 4Freedom
Wheeee, now that's what the U.S. Navy should be doing in the Caribbean, public relations.

But,but,but...maybe they won't hate us!!!

130 posted on 09/20/2006 11:41:22 AM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: Willie Green
That said, there should be action taken to offset the negative economic impact of this decision.

Why?

131 posted on 09/20/2006 11:44:49 AM PDT by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: junglegeorge; gogeo
"I am an electrical engineer. The red party is stealing over $100/mo off of each meter. that's over $400 million per month."

When oil was $78.00 a barrel, electricity was selling for 17 cents per kilowatt-hour in Puerto Rico. That's about what I'd expect. I don't know where your $100/mo comes from.

The last thing I'd want to see the 'Macheteros' terrorists in Puerto Rico have access to is a nuclear power plant that could rain 'Chernobyl' type fallout on the East coast of the United States.

They firebombed our Naval base on Vieques for Christ's sake. What would stop the Puerto Rican terrorists from bombing a nuclear power plant?

I would rather see Iran or North Korea with nuclear plants. They have a similar mentality, but they're farther away.

I'm sorry to read about all of your troubles in Puerto Rico. Are you trying to start a talapia farm there?

Good luck.

Your battle will be all uphill. The only thing Puerto Rico wants from the mainland is our money. No 'Gringos' need apply.

132 posted on 09/21/2006 3:44:23 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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