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Bush: $250,000 Cap Needed For Medical Malpractice Suits
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 1/16/03 | Christine Hall

Posted on 01/16/2003 12:30:10 PM PST by kattracks

1st Add: Includes comments from Alliance of American Insurers)

(CNSNews.com) - President Bush on Thursday called for Congress to pass a law limiting non-economic, punitive damages in medical malpractice suits to $250,000.

"Our medical liability system is broken," the president told a Scranton, Pa. audience.

"A broken system like that first and foremost hurts the patients and the people of America," said Bush, because "junk lawsuits" drive up malpractice insurance premiums and drive innocent doctors out of town, according to the president.

Non-economic damages include jury awards for "pain and suffering," while punitive damages are imposed as a way of punishing a defendant. Defendants can be required to pay non-economic and punitive damages on top of damages for loss of pay, medical expenses and other costs connected to a plaintiff's injury.

\li30\sb30 President Bush's plan would cap recoveries for non-economic damages; reserve punitive damages for cases where they are justified; provide for payments of judgments over time rather than in a single, lump sum; ensure that old cases could not be brought years after an event; reduce the amount doctors must pay if a plaintiff has received other payments from an insurer to compensate for their losses; and would provide that defendants pay judgments in proportion to their fault.

In the American legal system, laws governing civil disputes are usually decided by state legislatures, but Bush said this time the federal government needs to intervene.

"It is a national problem that needs a national solution," said Bush, because the direct cost of malpractice insurance and defensive medicine raises health care costs paid by the federal government though Medicare, Medicaid, veterans' health care and health care afforded to government employees.

The House passed a medical malpractice bill last year but the measure stalled in the Senate. Bush acknowledged that the Senate remains the major stumbling block to reform and urged citizens to lobby their home state senators on the need for damage caps.

The insurance industry is pushing Congress to pass legislation this year.
Rodger S. Lawson, president of the Alliance of American Insurers, urged Congress to enact medical malpractice liability reforms to reduce the number and size of malpractice claims.

\li30\sb30 Lawson called the president's plan a "solid step forward for the American health care system and the American economy."

"Reforming the medical malpractice system is critical, because the rising costs of health care are borne by numerous insurance lines: workers' compensation, automobile, homeowners, etc. All lines share some of the escalating costs," Lawson said. More to Follow...

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To: Chancellor Palpatine
All your ECONOMIC damages will be recoverable---expenses for home health aides, wheelchairs, loss of income, etc. PLUS you could recover an additional $250K for "pain and suffering."

So,yes, that's justice.
101 posted on 01/16/2003 5:24:58 PM PST by fightinJAG
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To: Boatlawyer
Wow! you must really get around to know and hate 99.9% of us. Shoot, I'm one of em and can't say I've met more than 1%.

That number is based on a sampling, of course, and exaggerated for effect. I have a couple friends who are attorneys and they are, by and large, reasonable people. I have dated three women attorneys and have corresponded with a few others and now avoid them like the plague.

103 posted on 01/16/2003 5:38:30 PM PST by Rockitz
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To: Right_in_Virginia
That's the way I understood it.

"Pain and suffering".....you can sue an obstetrician for a difficult birth until the child is 18. That means if he/she has a learning disability and has trouble in High School you could sue for any amount for the "pain and suffering" the child has endured.

You can also get unlimited punitive damages......meaning exactly what you said......you want to "punish" the doctor for what he/she did.

That's the kind of garbage these caps will put an end to.

104 posted on 01/16/2003 5:51:28 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - PRAY for him.)
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To: luckystarmom
I believe your original post said a "nurse practitioner" sent her home with sugar water - and your later note said the "doctor screwed up" - I sympathize with your daughter's plight and the tremendous burden this has placed on your family.....Economic damages certainly should cover any true injury and loss, but non-economic "pain and sufferring" limits are appropriate..
As an aside, I'd encourge all persons reading these posts to realize what the true problem was here... a less than fully qualified health care professional (read that a physician) did not provide the care - the child was seen by a mid-level provider who didn't have the experience or knowledge to appropriate assess the child and formulate a correct plan....bad outcomes can happen regardless of who sees the patient, but I would encourge all of you to demand that your care be provided by a REAL PHYSICIAN, not someone who "did the short course!" If your doctor makes you see nurse practitioners, or physician assistants instead of licensed and board-certified MD's or DO's - CHANGE DOCTORS!!!
Your health and future is too valuable to entrust to less than adequately trained practitioners. The doctors who use such providers are generally more interested in volume care so they entrust your care to less experienced staff - don't allow your family members to be victims in this scam!
105 posted on 01/16/2003 6:07:42 PM PST by Froggie
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To: kattracks
As others have said in the thread.

How much should we cap the pay of the executives at these insurance companies?
106 posted on 01/16/2003 6:15:38 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: ChiMark
I am sure it has nothing to do with the large loses that the insurance companies have had in the stock market...
107 posted on 01/16/2003 6:16:45 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: Froggie
There were actually about 3 events. On Wednesday, she should have been put in the hospital because she was only 6 weeks old but she was born 4 weeks early, and she was running a fever. If they put her in the hospital, they would have realized that she had RSV.

2) the nurse practioner saw her on Saturday, and sent us home with glucose water. She should have called the doctor, but she didn't. Jenny should have been put in the hospital again, but she wasn't. However, the doctor is in charge of the office, and I hold him responsible for his staff.

3) Once she was in the hospital, her sodium level was brought up too fast and caused a 2nd round of seizures.

The other part that is really scary is my other daughter. My one daughter was already in the hospital when her twin sister got sick. We took her twin sister to the pediatrician, and he didn't admit Emily to the hospital. Then Emily started to plummet, and we called the pediatrician. He told us just to watch her. Well, we finally ignored his advice and took her to the hospital. The ICU doctor thought she needed to be admitted, and started trying to figure out a way to admit her. While we were waiting for our second daughter to be admitted, she stopped breathing in the waiting room. The nurses scooped her from our arms and admitted her. Of course, our second daughter is okay because of our action, and we don't have a malpractice case for her (Thank God).

That pediatrician was a loser.

I'll agree with all of your final comments. I will not have a doctor that I cannot contact after hours. I don't mind going through a nurse first, but if I ask to talk to a doctor then I want to talk to a doctor.

I have always been blessed with good doctors. My ob/gyn was excellent. I really entrusted tooo much trust in our pediatrician. I will never do that again.
108 posted on 01/16/2003 6:33:52 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: ohioWfan
"You can also get unlimited punitive damages..."

That's not what the first line of the article says:

"(CNSNews.com) - President Bush on Thursday called for Congress to pass a law limiting non-economic, >>>punitive damages<<< in medical malpractice suits to $250,000."

Punitive damages are punishment damages for a doctor's negligence, if proven in court to the satisfaction of a jury. If a surgeon amputates your healthy leg rather than the diseased one, or removes your healthy lung, rather than the cancerous one, is $250,000 enough of a punishment towards a negligent surgeon? I don't support juries rewarding people for their injuries, but doctors don't police themselves. They are sent right back out to practice negligent medicine again. Allow the public access to a data base so we can determine doctors' lawsuit histories, so we can assess their competence. When licenses are permanently revoked for negligence, *then* cap the punitive damages.

109 posted on 01/16/2003 6:33:58 PM PST by top of the world ma
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To: ohioWfan
Further proof that great minds think alike ;)
110 posted on 01/16/2003 6:35:22 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Froggie
I had to make another comment. Several of my girlfriends were going to the same pediatrician. They still went to him even after they knew what happened to my daughters. Thank God, they have had healthy kids.

My ob/gyn was soooo mad at my pediatrician. She really went out of her way to make sure my twins were delivered full-term. I was on bedrest for over 10 weeks. She argued for all sorts of insurance coverage for me, so that I could have bedrest at home instead of in the hospital. She was awsome! The twins were really healthy when they were born. She was the first doctor to tell me that I needed to sue my pediatrician.
111 posted on 01/16/2003 6:38:15 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Yeti
I just keep seeing these hospitals and medical centers closing everywhere. It's an epidemic.

Actually, Einstein, there have been a few well publicized closings and close calls in the D.C. area in recent years. And things are only getting worse. Sorry you think my hypothetical, in response to another hypothetical, is a fairy tale. But I'm not exactly looking for your approval, since you're obviously not a close neighbor of reality.

112 posted on 01/16/2003 6:41:24 PM PST by Coop
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To: top of the world ma
Allow the public access to a data base so we can determine doctors' lawsuit histories, so we can assess their competence. When licenses are permanently revoked for negligence, *then* cap the punitive damages.

I agree with the first sentence here, but I'm not sure what you mean by the second.

I assume you mean that as long as the AMA protects bad doctors and lets them keep their licenses, punitive damages should be unlimited.

I see those as separate issues. What we have here is a medical organization that protects its own AND blood in the water trial lawyers and greedy people who will file malpractice suits for nothing at all.

You can't delay reform of one until the other happens. We have to have caps on malpractice suits or many good Docs will not be able to afford to practice, and many patients will be without healthcare.

113 posted on 01/16/2003 6:42:36 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - PRAY for him.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
:o)
114 posted on 01/16/2003 6:43:05 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - PRAY for him.)
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To: suntsu
I don't know why conservatives want to side with the big insurance companies on this one.

Can't speak for everyone else, but I can't stand insurance companies. But they still rate higher in my book than ambulance chasers. And what if your father had hired himself an attorney that got a nice $50K or $100K award? Sounds real good until the attorney takes a third of it.

115 posted on 01/16/2003 6:45:23 PM PST by Coop
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To: Coop
I know that there are several losers in all of this:

1) people who have real loss based on medical malpractice

2) good doctors who have to pay for the mistakes of the bad doctors (and there are bad doctors)

3) the public who has to pay basically for frivolous lawsuits with higher insurance rates and medical bills
116 posted on 01/16/2003 6:50:06 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: kattracks
"Our medical liability system is broken," the president told a Scranton, Pa. audience.

It's the medical system that's broken because of the good intentions of the federal government.

117 posted on 01/16/2003 6:52:22 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: ohioWfan
"punitive damages should be unlimited"

Judges can reduce punitive damages if they are deemed excessive, no? Then there's always the appeals process.

Weeding out the bad physicians by revoking their licenses will reduce the number of lawsuits that get to a jury. I don't support punishing the victims, like you left with a cancerous lung, or facing another amputation, leaving you a paraplegic, and letting the doc off with $250,000 in punitive damages.

I think you'd see an increase of men and women in medical schools too, not so fearful of mm lawsuits. I don't believe all the blame should be placed at the feet of attorneys. Doctors should police themselves, but they have lobbyists, too, unfortunately.

I don't know if this is being applied to wrongful death cases too, but what would you think about O J Simpson getting off with $250,000 in punitive damages for killing Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman? If the attempt to limit punitive damages in wrongful death cases isn't being promoted now, it soon will be.

118 posted on 01/16/2003 7:17:39 PM PST by top of the world ma
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To: top of the world ma
No one is placing all the blame at the feet of the attorneys. Did you hear the President's speech?
119 posted on 01/16/2003 8:11:51 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - PRAY for him.)
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To: Larry Lucido
You're right, but maybe he has been preoccupied with pressing matters the past 18 months
120 posted on 01/16/2003 8:46:15 PM PST by scannell
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