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To: carlo3b
The Vatican told Catholic politicians on Thursday they must oppose laws on abortion, euthanasia and gay marriages and can not accept compromises on Church teachings when formulating policy or legislation. I guess the rest is up to us!

You're wrong, carlo3b. The rest is up to the Pope and the Vatican. Just telling these feckless and spineless politicians will accomplish just about nothing - unless the Pope starts to demand consequences - withholding of the Eucharist, and excommunication, as an example. The problem is, the Church leadership has always been so, oh so afraid, to really confront society (and itself) on its immoratlities. That's why the Church can't even talk about true Christian sexual morality anymore (and we have a couple of thousand homosexually molested teenage boys at the hands (and other parts) of PRIESTS), never mentions contraception, is allowing divorce for just about anything, has eased up on the sacrament of reconciliation, etc. etc. etc. Let's see the Pope put some muscle behind his constant declarations. I'm not holding my breath. Our Church is far, far too in bed (and often literally) with society.

64 posted on 01/17/2003 5:24:39 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
I think his statement "I guess the rest is up to us!" was a rhetorical expression of his disappointment at the lack of teeth in this pronouncement.
66 posted on 01/17/2003 6:10:05 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: yendu bwam
You're wrong, carlo3b. The rest is up to the Pope and the Vatican. Just telling these feckless and spineless politicians will accomplish just about nothing - unless the Pope starts to demand consequences - withholding of the Eucharist, and excommunication, as an example.

I couldn't disagree any any stronger. What do you care if these creeps receive their communion, they'll burn in Hell... soooo that works for me, but I have a more immediate problem. These hypocrite freaks are now dragging my world with smut and filth... the pope is a bit old to be punching them in the nose, and he can't really go door to door to vote these people out of office or man a phone bank...etc You get the picture... I'm not fighting with you, just offering a more immediate method.

67 posted on 01/17/2003 6:18:32 AM PST by carlo3b (Tell your kids you love them today, tomorrow may be too late....)
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