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N. Korea SLAVE CAMP horror revealed
Msnbc.com ^ | 1/15/2003 | By Robert Windrem

Posted on 01/15/2003 8:48:32 PM PST by Gforce11

Death, terror in N. Korea gulag

A satellite image of the barracks and other facilities of Camp 22 at Haengyong in northeastern North Korea.

Jan. 15 -- NBC's Lisa Myers reports on the horrific accounts emerging from North Korea's prison labor camps.

By Robert Windrem MSNBC

Jan. 15 — In the far north of North Korea, in remote locations not far from the borders with China and Russia, a gulag not unlike the worst labor camps built by Mao and Stalin in the last century holds some 200,000 men, women and children accused of political crimes. A month-long investigation by NBC News, including interviews with former prisoners, guards and U.S. and South Korean officials, revealed the horrifying conditions these people must endure — conditions that shock even those North Koreans accustomed to the near-famine conditions of Kim Jong Il’s realm.

“IT’S ONE of the worst, if not the worst situation — human rights abuse situation — in the world today,” said Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., who held hearings on the camps last year. “There are very few places that could compete with the level of depravity, the harshness of this regime in North Korea toward its own people.” Satellite photos provided by DigitalGlobe confirm the existence of the camps, and interviews with those who have been there and with U.S. officials who study the North suggest Brownback’s assessment may be conservative. Among NBC News’ findings: At one camp, Camp 22 in Haengyong, some 50,000 prisoners toil each day in conditions that U.S. officials and former inmates say results in the death of 20 percent to 25 percent of the prison population every year. Products made by prison laborers may wind up on U.S. store shelves, having been “washed” first through Chinese companies that serve as intermediaries. Entire families, including grandchildren, are incarcerated for even the most bland political statements. Forced abortions are carried out on pregnant women so that another generation of political dissidents will be “eradicated.” Inmates are used as human guinea pigs for testing biological and chemical agents, according to both former inmates and U.S. officials.

• Day 1: Pyongyang's slave labor camps Day 2: U.S. weighs grim options with N. Korea Day 3: Is Uncle Sam still welcome in Seoul? Day 4: Refugees shed light on isolated North

• Day 1: Pyongyang's slave labor camps

• Day 2: U.S. weighs grim options with N. Korea

• Day 3: Is Uncle Sam still welcome in Seoul?

• Day 4: Refugees shed light on isolated North

Efforts by MSNBC.com to reach North Korean officials were unsuccessful. Messages left at the office of North Korea’s permanent representative to the United Nations went unanswered. Eung Soo Han, a press officer at South Korea’s U.N. consulate, said: “It is a very unfortunate situation, and our hearts go out to those who suffer. We hope North Korea will open up its country, and become more actively involved with the international community in order for the North Korean people to be lifted out of their difficult situation.”

LABOR, DEATH, ABUSE NBC’s investigation revealed that North Korea’s State Security Agency maintains a dozen political prisons and about 30 forced labor and labor education camps, mainly in remote areas. The worst are in the country’s far Northeast. Some of them are gargantuan: At least two of the camps, Haengyong and Huaong, are larger in area than the District of Columbia, with Huaong being three times the size of the U.S. capital district. Satellite photos provided by DigitalGlobe show several of the camps, including the notorious Haengyong, for the first time outside official circles. Plainly visible are acres upon acres of barracks, laid out in regimented military style. Surrounding each of them is 10-foot-high barbed-wire fencing along with land mines and man traps. There is even a battery of anti-aircraft guns to prevent a liberation by airborne troops.

Satellite image of the barracks at Haengyong.

Ahn Myong Chol, a guard at the camp (which is sometimes known as Hoeryong) from 1987 through 1994, examined the satellite photos of Camp 22 for NBC News. They were taken in April, eight years after he left. But he says little has changed. He was able to pick out the family quarters for prisoners, the work areas, the propaganda buildings. Looking at the imagery, Ahn noted what happened in each building: “This is the detention center,” he said. “If someone goes inside this building, in three months he will be dead or disabled for life. In this corner they decided about the executions, who to execute and whether to make it public. “This is the Kim Il Sung institute, a movie house for officers. Here is watchdog training. And guard training ground.” Pointing to another spot, he said: “This is the garbage pond where the two kids were killed when guard kicked them in pond.” Another satellite photo shows a coal mine at the Chungbong camp where prisoners are worked to exhaustion in a giant pit. “All of North Korea is a gulag,” said one senior U.S. official, noting that as many as 2 million people have died of starvation while Kim has amassed the world’s largest collection of Daffy Duck cartoons. “It’s just that these people [in the camps] are treated the worst. No one knows for sure how many people are in the camps, but 200,000 is consistent with our best guess. “We don’t have a breakdown, but there are large numbers of both women and children.”

BEYOND THE PALE It is the widespread jailing of political prisoners’ families that makes North Korea unique, according to human rights advocates.

SURVIVORS' TALES

Transcripts of terror • Soon Ok Lee • Kang Chol Hwan • Ahn Myong Chol

NBC News

Under a directive issued by Kim’s father, North Korea’s founder, Kim Il Sung, three generations of a dissident’s family can be jailed simply on the basis of a denunciation. NBC News interviewed two former prisoners and a former guard about conditions in the camps. The three spent their time at different camps. Their litany of camp brutalities is unmatched anywhere in the world, say human rights activists. “Listening to their stories, it’s horrific,” said David Hawk, a veteran human rights campaigner and a consultant for the U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea. Hawk has interviewed many former prisoners in Seoul. “It’s hard to do more than one or two a day because they’re just so painful to hear: horrific mistreatment - all sorts of suffering, beatings to death, executions.”

Kang Chol-Hwan is now a journalist with Chosun Ilbo, South Korea’s most important newspaper. His recent book, “The Aquariums of Pyongyang,” is the first memoir of a North Korean political prisoner. For nearly a decade, he was imprisoned because his grandfather had made complimentary statements about Japanese capitalism. He was a 9-year-old when he arrived at the Yodok camp. His grandfather was never seen again, and prison conditions killed his father. “When I was 10 years old,” Kang recalled, “We were put to work digging clay and constructing a building. And there were dozens of kids, and while digging the ground, it collapsed. And they died. And the bodies were crushed flat. And they buried the kids secretly, without showing their parents, even though the parents came.” The system appears to draw no distinction between those accused of the crime and their family members. Soon Ok Lee, imprisoned for seven years at a camp near Kaechon in Pyungbuk province, described how the female relatives of male prisoners were treated.

“I was in prison from 1987 till January 1993,” she told NBC News in Seoul, where she now lives. ”[The women] were forced to abort their children. They put salty water into the pregnant women’s womb with a large syringe, in order to kill the baby even when the woman was 8 months or 9 months pregnant. “And then, from time to time there a living infant is delivered. And then if someone delivers a live infant, then the guards kick the bloody baby and kill it. And I saw an infant who was crying with pain. I have to express this in words, that I witnessed such an inhumane hell.”

TESTING ON HUMANS Soon also spoke about the use of prisoners as guinea pigs, which a senior U.S. official describes as “very plausible. We have heard similar reports.” “I saw so many poor victims,” she said. “Hundreds of people became victims of biochemical testing. I was imprisoned in 1987 and during the years of 1988 through ’93, when I was released, I saw the research supervisors — they were enjoying the effect of biochemical weapons, effective beyond their expectations — they were saying they were successful.” She tearfully described how in one instance about 50 inmates were taken to an auditorium and given a piece of boiled cabbage to eat. Within a half hour, they began vomiting blood and quickly died. A shot of the enormous Chunbong camp from space. “I saw that in 20 or 30 minutes they died like this in that place. Looking at that scene, I lost my mind. Was this reality or a nightmare? And then I screamed and was sent out of the auditorium.” Prison guard Ahn’s memories are, like the others’, nothing short of gruesome. Every day, he said there were beatings and deaths. “I heard many times that eyeballs were taken out by beating,” he recalled. “And I saw that by beating the person the muscle was damaged and the bone was exposed, outside, and they put salt on the wounded part. At the beginning I was frightened when I witnessed it, but it was repeated again and again, so my feelings were paralyzed.” Moreover, said Ahn, beating and killing prisoners was not only tolerated, it was encouraged and even rewarded. “They trained me not to treat the prisoners as human beings. If someone is against socialism, if someone tries to escape from prison, then kill him,” Ahn said. “If there’s a record of killing any escapee then the guard will be entitled to study in the college. Because of that some guards kill innocent people.”

Newsweek: Bizarre world of women, wine and weapons President Bush told author and Washington Post Assistant Managing Editor Bob Woodward last year that he was well aware of the camps and the atrocities. That, officials say, partly explains why Bush insisted on North Korea’s inclusion in the “axis of evil” in his 2002 State of the Union address. “I loathe Kim Jong Il,” Bush told Woodward during an interview for the author’s book “Bush at War.” “I’ve got a visceral reaction to this guy because he is starving his people. And I have seen intelligence of these prison camps — they’re huge — that he uses to break up families and to torture people.” Brownback, a senator with a reputation as a human rights advocate, thinks that the prison camps and abuses have for too long taken a back seat to nuclear arms and other Korean issues. “It seems that what happened is that there got to be a complex set of issues, and people said, ‘Well OK, it’s about our relationship with China, it’s about the Korean Peninsula, it’s about this militaristic regime in North Korea that we don’t want to press too much because they may march across the border into South Korea.” Brownback says the North’s nuclear program, its missile tests and generally unpredictable behavior has blurred a critical issue: “I think people just got paralyzed to really put a focus on the human face of this suffering,” he said.

Lisa Myers, Rich Gardella and Judy Augsberger of NBC News and Michael Moran of MSNBC.com contributed to this report.

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To: Gforce11
This is where the crass charlatanism of the US media comes into play.

These photos have been out for months!

Other NK defector eyewitness sketches and accounts have been out for years in the form of documentaries, books, lectures, Asian language websites!

This information has been on S. Korean and Japanese TV in great details for years.

And yet, because North Korea is finally an issue (the US media and US people are brain dead about it for years leading up to it), this is 'some big new discovery and revelation on US TV.' Now thanks to NBC's week long 'expose' on North Korea, we are all supposed to be surprised and poised on the end of our seats in America for some flow of new information? Hogwash. This has bee known for years, has been in Congressional hearings, is all over the internet. (Where have the major US TV networks and the audiences they served been for the last 10 years?)

For pete's sake, the "NBC" photos were taken from the Far East Economic Review several months back.

Just confirms my impression that US media is so LATE and so SURFACE when it comes to reporting anything about Asia and in particular, North Korea.

Best for Freepers to get automatic Korean to English or Japanese to English software, and rely on the MEDIA IN ASIA if they want timely and detailed information to follow events.

21 posted on 01/16/2003 6:09:56 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (We're liable to get a reputation as a nation willing to oppose considerably weaker nations, only....)
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To: Gforce11
I hope no one is surprised by this: Stalinists have forced labor camps. I wonder if North Korea has its own Solzhenitsyn-san.
22 posted on 01/16/2003 6:12:27 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Travis McGee
This is why I describe, in Volume I of my series, what the N. Korean troops and officers do in the areas they control as they invade S. Korea ... and later in Volume II when our remaining KFOR troops surrender. Some thought I was too harsh ... I know now I was not ... if anything, I was not harsh enough.

God help those people in the South. It amazes me that so many, even in their government, are so opposed to us remaining there. I guess they figure we are not going to be able to stop it and that their best option is apeasement and assimilation. Useful idiot thinking, it will not save them from such monsters. Only the Grace of God and the force of arms have any hope against such brutality and tyranny.

23 posted on 01/16/2003 6:41:46 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Gforce11
" If someone is against socialism, if someone tries to escape from prison, then kill him,” Ahn said. "

At the rate we're going, this is the future of the US.

24 posted on 01/16/2003 7:47:10 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Best for Freepers to get automatic Korean to English or Japanese to English software

I'm all ears. Got a URL?

25 posted on 01/16/2003 7:57:59 AM PST by tictoc
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To: tictoc
As for freebies, try [http://babelfish.altavista.com/] and there you will see some dialogue boxes. You can select/cut/paste the URL of the Korean site you want (such as www.donga.co.kr for the Korean DongaIlbo newspaper), input the url, hit "Korean to English", and viola. Then, try to decipher what the have said if your Korean is not up to snuff. Works best on charts, headlines, etc. This works for Japanese to English, too. A good Japanese site is www.sankei.co.jp for news. Have fun.
26 posted on 01/16/2003 8:30:43 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (We're liable to get a reputation as a nation willing to oppose considerably weaker nations, only....)
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To: tictoc
Correction: Try this as a link to the Donga Korean site [http://www.donga.com/], and then do the cut/paste/translate thing I was talking about over on the Alta Vista site.
27 posted on 01/16/2003 8:34:05 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (We're liable to get a reputation as a nation willing to oppose considerably weaker nations, only....)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
[ http://donga.com ] Here again, try it this way. Don't hit the brackets on either side. Then, this link will take you right away to the Korean Donga newspaper site. Got it right now, finally!
28 posted on 01/16/2003 8:37:20 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (We're liable to get a reputation as a nation willing to oppose considerably weaker nations, only....)
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To: Ivan Ivanov
I first heard these types of stories a number of years ago from common Russians. They said that the world would be shocked to learn that the deaths in North Korea exceeded anything that the world had ever seen. Were these stories common knowledge because these stories been in the Russian news programs? Were these people merely relaying rumors from the street? Can you shed any light on this?
29 posted on 01/16/2003 9:00:43 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: all_mighty_dollar
Americans willingly buy crap from Chinese slave camps, why would they care more if it was produced by Koreans and "washed" through China?
30 posted on 01/16/2003 9:02:22 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: dfwgator
Exactly what I was thinking.
31 posted on 01/16/2003 9:12:02 AM PST by Future Snake Eater
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To: gnarledmaw
Americans willingly buy crap from Chinese slave camps, why would they care more if it was produced by Koreans and "washed" through China?

Good question

32 posted on 01/16/2003 9:35:20 AM PST by eshu
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To: gnarledmaw
somebody first needs to perhaps investigate the legal ramifications of a little conservative/freedom fighter 'political guerilla warfare', i.e. the printing up and attachment of little stickers, across the land, in little stores and big ones, next to "Made in China" stickers on products, saying simply "China Slave Labor".

In a way, it certainly isnt shoplifting or destroying property just to put little stickers like that on products here from China. They might get you for 'defacement', but I doubt it.

I bet a little movement like this could become a groundswell.

Don't leave for the Wallmart without your little roll of "China Slave Labor" stickers....Just thinking. It might at the least cut down on 10-20% of PRC goods sales in the USA, which would be millions of dollars denied the PRC.

33 posted on 01/16/2003 9:44:29 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (We're liable to get a reputation as a nation willing to oppose considerably weaker nations, only....)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Good thinking. Doesnt one or more of us Freepers own a small printing company? The bumpersticker/stamps guys is...
34 posted on 01/16/2003 10:12:43 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: Seeking the truth
Here it is if you want a bookmark.
35 posted on 01/16/2003 11:18:30 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I think we will have to pursue another avenue, the first freeper/printer that I thought of cant take that order right now. Ill try to find another freeper/printer.
36 posted on 01/16/2003 11:23:11 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: Gforce11
God help those people.
37 posted on 01/16/2003 11:31:16 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Darth Crackerhead)
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To: Jeff Head
North Korea is a riddle, it's TNT and nitroglycerine bouncing down a mine shaft. How this is going to play out nobody can guess, it could end like Romania, or Hiroshima.
38 posted on 01/16/2003 11:52:17 AM PST by Travis McGee (Go out and BLOAT.)
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To: American Soldier
Products made by prison laborers may wind up on U.S. store shelves, having been “washed” first through Chinese companies that serve as intermediaries.

This is disgusting. Frankly it is one of the prices of free trade with China. I bet most Americans would recoil at the thought that thye might be buying products made in such places. I wish someone could find out what they are.

39 posted on 01/16/2003 11:57:51 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Gforce11
Superb post. Very difficult to read. The President is right. N. Korea's Communist leaders, from Kim Jong Il down, are evil, loathsome people. God will have the final say.
40 posted on 01/16/2003 12:20:06 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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