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President to speak at 4:30 about Affirmative action..

Posted on 01/15/2003 1:13:13 PM PST by Dog

President to speak shortly...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; bush; quotas; racism; racists; reverseracism
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To: TLBSHOW
Number 167 shows you as a Bush hater
181 posted on 01/15/2003 2:01:58 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I didn't start the disruption. All I said was that I wished that GWB had said this much sooner. That was on topic, then I was attacked by several people to which I responded. If people wish to stay on topic, perhaps those people should not start attack threads that lead off topic.
182 posted on 01/15/2003 2:02:12 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: TLBSHOW
I just heard on the radio that Teddy Kennedy called Bush's statement "shameful."
183 posted on 01/15/2003 2:02:28 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Timesink
A 1978 SCOTUS decision allowing racism in university admissions. Basically the reporter was trying to bait Bush into saying something like "I want blacks out of colleges."

That's not my understanding of the Bakke decision. As I recall, the justices decided in Allan Bakke's favor (5-4) but left other questions open concerning affirmative action admissions practices. Most of the justices wrote their own opinions, which all differed, sometimes in major respects. There was nothing "racist" about the decision itself but it was quite narrow and left lots of room for further controversy over race-based admissions policies -- just the kind we're seeing at UM. In the wake of Bakke there have been a bewildering array of AA court decisions at all judicial levels that contradict eachother and create immense confusion. The USSC needs to lay it down definitively and do so now so that this festering issue can finally be laid to rest.

184 posted on 01/15/2003 2:03:03 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: InspiredPath1; Mo1
Nixon Southern Strategy

We really need a thread to make a list of ALL the buzzwords, don't we?

Mo, what was the one last week from Nancy Pelosi about food?

185 posted on 01/15/2003 2:03:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Amazing that MSNBC has the most racist person responding to Bush's speech. Why does the media still think that Jessie Jackson represents all of Black America and even has the right to respond? What idiots they are!
186 posted on 01/15/2003 2:03:44 PM PST by areafiftyone (Hillary and Pelosi are Raelian clones)
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To: peekaboo
"Daschele must have gotten permission from Hillary to make his comments"

Bush MADE Hillary's Day. It gave her something to B#tch about.

Bush knows he will never have the support of the Yellow Dog Dems, so why should he do the "wrong thing" just for their votes, which he won't get anyway.

sw

187 posted on 01/15/2003 2:04:12 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (Happy Birthday, Martin Luther King))
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To: spectre
Oh dear..Jesse Jackson is complaining about Bush making this announcement on the original Martin Luther King's birthday.

Seems very fitting to me.

"I have a dream that one day my four little children will live in a country where they will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
-- Martin Luther King, 1963

Seems like W is trying to make King's dream a reality.

188 posted on 01/15/2003 2:04:14 PM PST by Ditto
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To: TLBSHOW
Don't thank me...go hold Daschle's feet to the fire.
189 posted on 01/15/2003 2:04:52 PM PST by Dog
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To: ohioWfan
congratulate yourself for making the President be a good boy today.

*Snicker*

190 posted on 01/15/2003 2:04:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
One last thing before I get back to work.

I feel very strongly that AA is wrong and I pray that my kids will not have to deal with it in the future. Some things need to be said over and over till they sink in. How do you think the liberals have gotten so many people to agree with their illogical statements? Easy, they yell them from the mountain tops till most people accept them as fact. We should copy that model.
191 posted on 01/15/2003 2:04:58 PM PST by Karsus (TrueFacts=GOOD, GoodFacts=BAD)
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To: Ditto
Seems like W is trying to make King's dream a reality.

Amen!

192 posted on 01/15/2003 2:05:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: r9etb
Diversity is a laudable goal, just not diversity based on race, which is no different than diversity based upon eye or hair color. Diversity of economic class, diversity of opinion, diversity of political philosophy (how about a little of THAT on faculties in colleges?) are all valid, but to suggest that diversity based on race is somehow shorthand for substantive diversity grounds is sheer racism and bigotry.
193 posted on 01/15/2003 2:05:33 PM PST by NCLaw441
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To: aristeides
Shameful? No, shameful is leaving a drowning woman in the back seat of the car while you save YOUR sorry A$$.
194 posted on 01/15/2003 2:05:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ohioWfan
Your comment made no sense to me either.

Thank you Ohio. I thought that comment was like that of a typical smug liberal - Dubya can't make a decision by himself.

195 posted on 01/15/2003 2:05:44 PM PST by gramho12
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To: Guillermo
Maybe you missed this part of the post....

this is a courageous stand
196 posted on 01/15/2003 2:06:07 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: areafiftyone
Is it just me, or has Jackson's speech gotten worse...he's stuttering an awful lot lately. He is either getting worse or he is in an all out panic because he knows everybody knows what a loser he is......I vote for the second, of course!
197 posted on 01/15/2003 2:06:54 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Food insecure...
198 posted on 01/15/2003 2:06:56 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
ROFLMAO!
199 posted on 01/15/2003 2:08:22 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Bonaparte
In Bakke, 5 justices ruled for Bakke and against the University of California's racial quota. However, one of those 5 was Justice Powell, who in his opinion approved of a different system of admission at Harvard, which was not -- at least ostensibly -- a rigid quota, and which, Powell said, advanced the legitimate goal of "diversity." 4 justices would have upheld the University of California quota.

Ever since Bakke, universities have adopted systems of racial preference that were not as open as the University of California's quota, and which claimed to be aiming at Powell's goal of "diversity." Because Powell's was the deciding vote in Bakke, they often pretended his opinion was the opinion of the Supreme Court, which is not, strictly speaking, true.

200 posted on 01/15/2003 2:08:54 PM PST by aristeides
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