Posted on 01/15/2003 5:29:08 AM PST by Petronski
America has entered one of its periods of historical madness, but this is the worst I can remember: worse than McCarthyism, worse than the Bay of Pigs and in the long term potentially more disastrous than the Vietnam War. The reaction to 9/11 is beyond anything Osama bin Laden could have hoped for in his nastiest dreams. As in McCarthy times, the freedoms that have made America the envy of the world are being systematically eroded. The combination of compliant US media and vested corporate interests is once more ensuring that a debate that should be ringing out in every town square is confined to the loftier columns of the East Coast press.
The imminent war was planned years before bin Laden struck, but it was he who made it possible. Without bin Laden, the Bush junta would still be trying to explain such tricky matters as how it came to be elected in the first place; Enron; its shameless favouring of the already-too-rich; its reckless disregard for the worlds poor, the ecology and a raft of unilaterally abrogated international treaties. They might also have to be telling us why they support Israel in its continuing disregard for UN resolutions.
But bin Laden conveniently swept all that under the carpet. The Bushies are riding high. Now 88 per cent of Americans want the war, we are told. The US defence budget has been raised by another $60 billion to around $360 billion. A splendid new generation of nuclear weapons is in the pipeline, so we can all breathe easy. Quite what war 88 per cent of Americans think they are supporting is a lot less clear. A war for how long, please? At what cost in American lives? At what cost to the American taxpayers pocket? At what cost because most of those 88 per cent are thoroughly decent and humane people in Iraqi lives?
How Bush and his junta succeeded in deflecting Americas anger from bin Laden to Saddam Hussein is one of the great public relations conjuring tricks of history. But they swung it. A recent poll tells us that one in two Americans now believe Saddam was responsible for the attack on the World Trade Centre. But the American public is not merely being misled. It is being browbeaten and kept in a state of ignorance and fear. The carefully orchestrated neurosis should carry Bush and his fellow conspirators nicely into the next election.
Those who are not with Mr Bush are against him. Worse, they are with the enemy. Which is odd, because Im dead against Bush, but I would love to see Saddams downfall just not on Bushs terms and not by his methods. And not under the banner of such outrageous hypocrisy.
The religious cant that will send American troops into battle is perhaps the most sickening aspect of this surreal war-to-be. Bush has an arm-lock on God. And God has very particular political opinions. God appointed America to save the world in any way that suits America. God appointed Israel to be the nexus of Americas Middle Eastern policy, and anyone who wants to mess with that idea is a) anti-Semitic, b) anti-American, c) with the enemy, and d) a terrorist.
God also has pretty scary connections. In America, where all men are equal in His sight, if not in one anothers, the Bush family numbers one President, one ex-President, one ex-head of the CIA, the Governor of Florida and the ex-Governor of Texas.
Care for a few pointers? George W. Bush, 1978-84: senior executive, Arbusto Energy/Bush Exploration, an oil company; 1986-90: senior executive of the Harken oil company. Dick Cheney, 1995-2000: chief executive of the Halliburton oil company. Condoleezza Rice, 1991-2000: senior executive with the Chevron oil company, which named an oil tanker after her. And so on. But none of these trifling associations affects the integrity of Gods work.
In 1993, while ex-President George Bush was visiting the ever-democratic Kingdom of Kuwait to receive thanks for liberating them, somebody tried to kill him. The CIA believes that somebody was Saddam. Hence Bush Jrs cry: That man tried to kill my Daddy. But its still not personal, this war. Its still necessary. Its still Gods work. Its still about bringing freedom and democracy to oppressed Iraqi people.
To be a member of the team you must also believe in Absolute Good and Absolute Evil, and Bush, with a lot of help from his friends, family and God, is there to tell us which is which. What Bush wont tell us is the truth about why were going to war. What is at stake is not an Axis of Evil but oil, money and peoples lives. Saddams misfortune is to sit on the second biggest oilfield in the world. Bush wants it, and who helps him get it will receive a piece of the cake. And who doesnt, wont.
If Saddam didnt have the oil, he could torture his citizens to his hearts content. Other leaders do it every day think Saudi Arabia, think Pakistan, think Turkey, think Syria, think Egypt.
Baghdad represents no clear and present danger to its neighbours, and none to the US or Britain. Saddams weapons of mass destruction, if hes still got them, will be peanuts by comparison with the stuff Israel or America could hurl at him at five minutes notice. What is at stake is not an imminent military or terrorist threat, but the economic imperative of US growth. What is at stake is Americas need to demonstrate its military power to all of us to Europe and Russia and China, and poor mad little North Korea, as well as the Middle East; to show who rules America at home, and who is to be ruled by America abroad.
The most charitable interpretation of Tony Blairs part in all this is that he believed that, by riding the tiger, he could steer it. He cant. Instead, he gave it a phoney legitimacy, and a smooth voice. Now I fear, the same tiger has him penned into a corner, and he cant get out.
It is utterly laughable that, at a time when Blair has talked himself against the ropes, neither of Britains opposition leaders can lay a glove on him. But thats Britains tragedy, as it is Americas: as our Governments spin, lie and lose their credibility, the electorate simply shrugs and looks the other way. Blairs best chance of personal survival must be that, at the eleventh hour, world protest and an improbably emboldened UN will force Bush to put his gun back in his holster unfired. But what happens when the worlds greatest cowboy rides back into town without a tyrants head to wave at the boys?
Blairs worst chance is that, with or without the UN, he will drag us into a war that, if the will to negotiate energetically had ever been there, could have been avoided; a war that has been no more democratically debated in Britain than it has in America or at the UN. By doing so, Blair will have set back our relations with Europe and the Middle East for decades to come. He will have helped to provoke unforeseeable retaliation, great domestic unrest, and regional chaos in the Middle East. Welcome to the party of the ethical foreign policy.
There is a middle way, but its a tough one: Bush dives in without UN approval and Blair stays on the bank. Goodbye to the special relationship.
I cringe when I hear my Prime Minister lend his head prefects sophistries to this colonialist adventure. His very real anxieties about terror are shared by all sane men. What he cant explain is how he reconciles a global assault on al-Qaeda with a territorial assault on Iraq. We are in this war, if it takes place, to secure the fig leaf of our special relationship, to grab our share of the oil pot, and because, after all the public hand-holding in Washington and Camp David, Blair has to show up at the altar.
But will we win, Daddy?
Of course, child. It will all be over while youre still in bed.
Why?
Because otherwise Mr Bushs voters will get terribly impatient and may decide not to vote for him.
But will people be killed, Daddy?
Nobody you know, darling. Just foreign people.
Can I watch it on television?
Only if Mr Bush says you can.
And afterwards, will everything be normal again? Nobody will do anything horrid any more?
Hush child, and go to sleep.
Last Friday a friend of mine in California drove to his local supermarket with a sticker on his car saying: Peace is also Patriotic. It was gone by the time hed finished shopping.
The author has also contributed to an openDemocracy debate on Iraq at www.openDemocracy.net
Yep, we Californians are just a bunch of warmongers.
It's too bad Clowntoon didn't feel a pressing need to get his crimes and pecadilloes off the front page at that time. Then, he would have done the right thing (albeit for the wrong reason).
You're a cop. Does the same go for murderers who get away with one due to poor policing? Do they then have a license to kill anyone they please, because we let them get away with it once?
And not only did he go, he went and murdered people we told we would protect and support. Meaning the Kurds.
Is that right about the Kurds? I have yet to read anything on my own or have anyone show me that we did not abandon them.
And if it's true that we abandon the Kurds, after we told them we'd protect them, then shame on us.
Also, while we're having a discussion, what about all the veterans of the Gulf War who are trying to draw attention to the government on the medical problems they are having since the war? There have been a few posts on FR about this and I didn't hear anybody calling them 'sorry peaceniks' etc.
And yes, we did abandon the Kurds and it was wrong.
But that has nothing to with the current situation. We also didn't treat the Indians very nice, but that has nothing to do with the price of tea.
I love how these people always say they'd like Saddam to be gone, just not that way. Well, what way, then? Give us your plan there, John. You can write excruciatingly convoluted novels, so you presumably can knock out a downfall-of-Saddam operation in an afternoon.
That was a travesty, but is not the issue of today.
I dont think this ouster of Sadaam is for oil so much as it is for revenge for the attack on George I.
Proof please!
If we would have taken Sadaam our the first time, there would have been no attempt on the President.
You are correct, but again, that is not the issue for January 15, 2003.
The difference between 1991 and 2003 is that there are l3,000 dead at the WTC and the Pentagon. Iraq is a state sponsor of terror directed at the West. I believe there is a link between Iraq and Al Queda the least being the meeting in Prague between Muhammed Atta and Iraqi intelligence. That is what this war is about.! About stopping terrorism in its track, before a madman can arm terrorists to do more harm in the US, Israel, and the West.
Now, we can debate this issue until the cows come home because this is the issue. (IMO)
What do you call the Northern Fly Zone? That was setup specifically to protect the Kurds. And by the way, because of that no-fly zone, Kurdish controlled Northern Iraq is one of the few places in the Middle East where they have a functioning rule of law. If one were objective about what is taking place in Northern Iraq, one could even say that it provides a model for how Iraq should be governed as a whole once the United States destroys Hussein's thugocracy.
Sadaam was 'public enemy number 1.'
Then we had him. We had him defeated and we let him go and Sadaam killed the Kurds. Why didn't we go back THEN?
Now, you say that we abandoned the Kurds and it was wrong. Then you say we didn't treat the Indians very nice either.
And I'm the bad guy in this????
More and more people here will make good police officers.
I disagree with the Cap'n, but exiling people that we disagree with is exactly what DU does, and avoiding debate is a silly way to try to advance the conservative agenda. Let the DU homogenize their discussions so that they never have to articulate why they hold the positions they do. I don't want to see that here.
I'm sorry but it's not that easy for me to say "that was a travesty but it's not the issue of today."
Well, excuse me if I'm a bit miffed that we abandoned a people we said we would protect. Especially when they were going to do some of the dirtywork for us and oust Sadaam.
Frankly, that infurates me.
Proof about revenge and oil? I saw current President Bush on TV say: "He (Sadaam) tried to kill my daddy." Saw it with my own eyes.
Yes, I am correct as I have seen and learned up till now. That is why I am very skeptical about our reasons for Gulf 2.
I'm also infuriated that our Government has not, to the best of my knowledge, taken care of our Veterans, not only from the Gulf, but from Vietnam and Korea also.
And I'm less than thrilled that people on this forum who have directed so much venom at me for being a police officer, "falling in line" to crush the Constitution and "go along blindly" with my leaders, refer to me insultingly and go along blindly with the President. And can't come up with anything other than insults.
But hey, that's what makes America great.
Because we did something after the fact makes everything we didn't do OK?
Why didn't we get rid of Sadaam the first time?
Thank you for civil responses.
And I am giving you plenty of room to be angry. It was betrayal... but, should that betrayal prevent us from going after Saddam today?
Frankly, that infurates me.
Be infuriated! I don't have a problem with that.
Proof about revenge and oil? I saw current President Bush on TV say: "He (Sadaam) tried to kill my daddy." Saw it with my own eyes.
Two problems with the above. Saddam did try to kill President Bush. That is a fact not in debate today. So, GWB is correct when he says that. You said that revenge was the reason we are going into Iraq today. I am asking for proof on that.
I'm also infuriated that our Government has not, to the best of my knowledge, taken care of our Veterans, not only from the Gulf, but from Vietnam and Korea also.
This is a national shame. Yet, it does not have anything to do with the war on terror. Everything should be done to treasure and care for the men and women who fought for us.
And I'm less than thrilled that people on this forum who have directed so much venom at me for being a police officer, "falling in line" to crush the Constitution and "go along blindly" with my leaders, refer to me insultingly and go along blindly with the President. And can't come up with anything other than insults.
Well... that's not right either. But, I haven't done that (at least I don't think I have).
Well, that post dropped my opinion of your last post a few notches. (not that you might care)
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