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The United States of America has gone mad [Emetic!]
The Times of London ^ | January 15, 2003 | John le Carré

Posted on 01/15/2003 5:29:08 AM PST by Petronski

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A mediocre spy novelist checks in.
1 posted on 01/15/2003 5:29:08 AM PST by Petronski
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2 posted on 01/15/2003 5:31:58 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the DC Chapter at the Patriots Rally III on 1/18/03)
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To: Petronski
He should stick to writing bad books that make even worse TV movies.
3 posted on 01/15/2003 5:36:04 AM PST by conservativemusician
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To: conservativemusician
Doesn't he sound just like a crank from DUh.com?
4 posted on 01/15/2003 5:41:07 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
A wannabe John LeCarre, I suspect
5 posted on 01/15/2003 5:48:42 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Petronski
Senile squeaking from David John Moore Cornwell, boring novelist and son of a thief.
6 posted on 01/15/2003 5:49:00 AM PST by metesky
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To: Petronski
Yes he does.

Maybe he could get Sean Penn to star in the straight to video movie of his latest so called novel.

7 posted on 01/15/2003 5:49:32 AM PST by conservativemusician (brit libs with french surnames should let real men take care of the heavy lifting)
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To: Petronski
A mediocre spy novelist checks in.

File this one under "Fiction".

8 posted on 01/15/2003 5:53:22 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Petronski
I'll take some heat for this one I'm sure, but here goes.

This writer obviously doesn't like our President and I don't agree with that.

But,

To me alot of what he says holds true. I don't think this ouster of Sadaam is for oil so much as it is for revenge for the attack on George I.

I'm not prepared to give my approval for war against Iraq. I think we have more concern over China & North Korea than we do Iraq.

And lastly, I've had some discussions with people here about the Kurds, whom if I remember correctly, we promised to defend in Gulf War I. It seems to me we didn't and I haven't seen or heard anyone explain why we didn't. If Sadaam was such a 'Hitler' why didn't we do it right the first time?

9 posted on 01/15/2003 6:05:06 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Publius6961
This is the novelist. The link at the end of the article points to a website where LeCarre is joined by Salmon Rushdie and other 'famous writers.' here are his comments on that anti-war page.

John le Carré - English novelist

A PREDATORY AND DISHONEST WAR
This is High Noon for American democracy. The rights and freedoms that have made America the envy of the world are being systematically eroded. A new McCarthyism is abroad. Bush tells us that those who are not with him are against him. I am not with him.

The American over-reaction is beyond everything Osama could have hoped for in his nastiest dreams. But this war was planned long before Osama struck, and it is Osama who made it possible. Without him, the Bush junta would have been mired in Enron, electoral scandal and taxation sleeze. Thanks to Osama, Americans are instead being daily misled by their leaders and by their compliant corporate media.

There is a stink of religious self-righteousness in the air that reminds me of the British Empire at its worst. I cringe when I hear my Prime Minister lend his head prefect’s sophistries to this patently self-interested adventure to secure our oil supplies.

“But will we win, Daddy?”
“Of course we will, child, and quickly, while you are still in bed.”
“But will people be killed, Daddy?”
“There will be a few Western casualties. Very few. Go to sleep.”
“And after that, will everything be normal? Nobody will strike back? The terrorists will all be dead?”
“Wait till you’re older, dear. Goodnight.”
“And is it really true that last time round Iraq lost twice as many dead as America lost in the entire Vietnam war?”
“Hush child. That’s called history.”

Where’s the hurry? Iraq is a vile dictatorship, and Saddam is a monster who sits on the world’s second largest oil reserves. But there is ample time to consider how to unseat him before we plunge into this predatory and dishonest war. Leave the UN inspectors there. Convene Iraq’s neighbours. And consider for a moment where the will came from to make this war in the first place.

Americans can still awake to the shame of what is being done in their name.

Britain is half way there. The French and Russians have been bribed and browbeaten into submission. Only the good Germans have so far succeeded in sticking to their silent guns. I wish profoundly that the rest of us Europeans, in the spirit of a nobler President, would declare ourselves to be citizens of Berlin.

©John le Carré 2003

10 posted on 01/15/2003 6:09:24 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Petronski
"Without bin Laden, the Bush junta would still be trying to explain such tricky matters as how it came to be elected in the first place; Enron; its shameless favouring of the already-too-rich;...."

I got this far before I quit reading.

11 posted on 01/15/2003 6:28:48 AM PST by SW6906
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To: Petronski
Already posted here.
12 posted on 01/15/2003 6:42:03 AM PST by TomServo
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To: Cap'n Crunch

An attempt on a US President's life is overwhelming justification for taking any b*st*rd out. If Klintoon had any core principles and moral values whatsoever, we would've taken care of this problem (Saddam) 8 years when the attempt occurred.

Just think of this as old, unresolved, business. There's plenty of time to deal with PDRK, PRC, Iran, Syria, etc.
13 posted on 01/15/2003 6:46:43 AM PST by x1stcav (HooAhh!!!)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Why don't you take your sorry peacnik-ass to DU.
14 posted on 01/15/2003 6:52:38 AM PST by ohioman
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To: x1stcav
If we would have taken Sadaam out the first time there would have been no attempt on the President.

Well, I'll rephrase that, someone else probably would have stepped up.

My motto is, do it right the first time.

15 posted on 01/15/2003 6:57:30 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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What is amazing is even LeCarre admites he wants Saddam gone. Why does LeCarre want Saddam removed from office uless he too views Hussein as a threat to the free world? How does he think that's going to happen? By repeating "please, please leave with sugar on top" over and over? LeCarre's blind hatred of Bush is apparent in this article as he throws up all the wacko left conspiracies about the CIA, big oil, defense companies, and Enron. According to him America is no on par with the level of civil freedoms citizens have in North Korea or Cuba. What utter rubbish! LeCarre obviously is no fan of Blair either.

When Saddam goes easy, all these naysayers will once again be forced to eat crow. Their repetitive handwringing and sophmoric paranoia is getting boring.
16 posted on 01/15/2003 6:58:17 AM PST by finnman69
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To: Petronski
I am so bored with elite Brits - who have very little knowledge about America because they only vacation in Tuscany and only talk to Arthur Miller - telling us who we are. This guy thinks America is in the worst shape of its history because someone swiped a decal off the back of a car in California. P.S.: Why don't I believe that one either?
17 posted on 01/15/2003 6:59:56 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Cap'n Crunch
If we would have taken Sadaam out the first time there would have been no attempt on the President. Well, I'll rephrase that, someone else probably would have stepped up. My motto is, do it right the first time.

I susupect with comments like that you wont be around here very much longer. Is this Barbara Streisand or Michael Moore in disguise?

18 posted on 01/15/2003 7:01:48 AM PST by finnman69
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To: ohioman
LOL, I figured someone like you would show up fast.

You know I take alot of heat here because I'm a cop. I've been called a fascist, a jackboot, "can't think for yourself", sheep, idiot etc.

So, my opinion is different than yours so "take your sorry peacenik ass to DU."

You would make a fine police officer, according to alot of people here.

Maybe you should go to DU if all you can do is name call and not come up with some answers. Name calling is the order of the day at DU when you don't have anything intelligent to say isn't it?

And, how 'bout them Kurds?

19 posted on 01/15/2003 7:02:14 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: finnman69
Isn't that what FR is for? Discussion?

If I'm not around I'm not around. And unless you've had another screen name, I've been here a bit longer than you have.

20 posted on 01/15/2003 7:04:09 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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