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To: DannyTN
On the flip side, I'm not at all confident in the so called modern scientific explanations. Modern science is only a couple of hundred years old.

I'm not sure that's at all germane to whether science is correct or not. It's certainly worthwhile to point out that science doesn't have all the answers, and may not ever, but simply because most of the modern sciences are only 300 years old or whatever isn't reason enough to doubt the conclusions reached by scientific inquiry.

And if they discount records of a global flood, they may very well make some huge calculation mistakes.

As I understand it, geologists and suchlike have a pretty good understanding of what large quantities of water do to geologic features, and there is simply no extant physical evidence of a Flood. That's not to say it absolutely did not happen, since science doesn't operate that way. Science basically says:

"Well, there's nothing in the fossil or geologic records to suggest The Flood actually occurred - things aren't arranged as one would expect to find had such an event happened. That could mean:

1. It happened, but God has a spectacular cleanup crew, or:
2. It didn't happen the way it was depicted in Genesis, or:
3. It didn't happen at all.

Personally, I'll take Number 2 as being most likely. Some huge but smaller-than-Deluge-scale flood occurred many thousands of years ago, and wound up in our collective cultural memory (there are (largely dissimilar) Flood stories in other religious traditions, notably Ancient Greek). That flood wound up being written as The Flood.

Of course, this requires that one not employ a literalistic reading of the Bible. I'm quite comfortable with this - Jesus spoke in parables and analogies. Why couldn't The Father?

I threw in the speed of light because some scientists have produced evidence recently that the speed of light is not constant but slowing down.

Unless there've been some really recent developments I'm unaware of (surely not!), that particular hypothesis was shown to be untrue.

Regards, Snidely

26 posted on 01/14/2003 9:02:08 PM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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To: Snidely Whiplash
"simply because most of the modern sciences are only 300 years old or whatever isn't reason enough to doubt the conclusions reached by scientific inquiry."

It germain because they are having to extrapolate out to a long period of time (6000 yrs - 6 million years) given a relatively short amount of time (50 years-200 years). That forces them to make all kinds of assumptions.

Well, there's nothing in the fossil or geologic records to suggest The Flood actually occurred ..." It's my understanding that fossils of sea creatures have been found at the top of some of the highest mountains.

In order for fossils to form, the animal must be trapped in clay or mud, otherwise it would decompose. Thus the fossil record itself is potentially evidence of a flood.

http://www.parentcompany.com/great_dinosaur_mistake/tgdm10.htm

http://www.sixdaycreation.com/feb.html "Jesus spoke in parables and analogies. Why couldn't The Father?

When Jesus spoke in parables he frequently explained the meaning of the parables. You would expect to see the same thing out of the Father. It's just not likely that God would not use language that clearly indicates a parable instead of history.

Speed of light not constant, "I'm unaware of (surely not!), that particular hypothesis was shown to be untrue."

This is from August 2001. I've not seen any articles disproving it. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/generalscience/constant_changing_010815.html

41 posted on 01/15/2003 12:24:58 PM PST by DannyTN
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