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To: Wallaby
This thread should be generating a lot more notes.

Perhaps people don't want to consider the fact that Bush Sr. sparked Saddam's enmity by stumbling into a war that could have been averted. Saddam was a de facto ally prior to 1990. Since 1991, he has been a great source of mischief and death for Americans.

And you can thank Bush Sr. for that.

Think back. Saddam attacked Iran in 1980 and siezed some of the oil refineries right across the border. He --thought-- the Iranians, racked by revolution, were an easy target. He was wrong. Eight years and as many as 500,000 KIA later, the war ended.

Remember this: The Reagan administration supported BOTH sides in this war. We gave Iraq satelite intelligence at least, and we, as is known, provided Iran with TOW anti-tank missiles, helicopter parts and other aid. Now, while we were helping Iraq fight off their their deadly and militant enemy, was Saddam attacking U.S. targets? I don't remember that, do you? The war ended in 1988 in a stalemate. Do you recall any attacks on U.S. interests by Iraq in 1988, 89 or 1990? I don't.

Walt

9 posted on 01/14/2003 11:00:32 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
>Do you recall any attacks on U.S. interests by Iraq in 1988, 89 or 1990?

I can recall an attack on August 2, 1990.

11 posted on 01/14/2003 11:07:06 AM PST by Wallaby
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"Do you recall any attacks on U.S. interests by Iraq in 1988, 89 or 1990? I don't."

Could the reason for this be that he did not have the resources available to cause mischief? After all he had just fought a very resource/manpower intensive 8 year war.

Sometimes one just has to finish their thought processes to find the answers.


13 posted on 01/14/2003 11:12:58 AM PST by sinclair (You need pay no attention to the voices in my head. They speak only to me.)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
When the Kuwaitis went back on their word to recompense Saddam for the Iranian campaign and started shenanigans with the oil fields on the two countries borders, Saddam was justifiably pissed.

After we saved the perverted swishy sheiks of Kuwait ( an American GI was tasked with rescrewing newly procured gold faucets in the royal palace) we abandoned the rebels of Iraq per orders from our masters, the Saudis, as conveyed to Papa Bush.

In a rational world, we'd have wasted the Saudi royals by now.
22 posted on 01/14/2003 11:53:24 AM PST by swarthyguy (What if Bush is fooling everyone and we move into Saudi instead?)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men
To speak out with truth gets you ostracized and labeled as a KOOK, a tinfoiler, a liar, or other things, so why bother?
You won't even be moved from your pro-Lincoln stance.
Who is the coward?
59 posted on 01/14/2003 5:55:08 PM PST by philman_36
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"Remember this: The Reagan administration supported BOTH sides [Iran and Iraq] in this war."

So that, hopefully, as one Reagan administration source remarked, they would both lose.

"Saddam was a de facto ally prior to 1990."

In the same way that Iran was an "ally". Which is to say, not really.

"Do you recall any attacks on U.S. interests by Iraq in 1988, 89 or 1990?"

In August, 1990, Iraq occupied Kuwait. Which was definitely not in America's national interest.

85 posted on 01/20/2003 7:48:08 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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