[BlackElk]

What I said was that bloodlines do not constitute the essence of conservatism nor do borders nor do social stratification, etc. Conservatism is a set of principles, ideas and ideals. That Dubya has Mexican relatives by marriage has been a major electoral advantage, protecting him from the claims of Demonrats, inspired by border paranoia and its expressions, that the GOP is the enemy of Mexican-Americans which it is not.

I want to hear the description of your winning coalition of voters nationally that excludes the Mexican-American vote.

[dirtboy]

I want to hear the description of your winning coalition of voters nationally that excludes the Mexican-American vote.

And there is your fallacy - that opposition to illegal immigration equates exculsion of the Mexican-American vote. If this is done properly, it will make the situation better rather than worse - because now the illegals live in a shadow world where they are prey to thugs and dishonest businesses and law enforcement officers. If we need this labor, come up with a program to bring it into the light, and punish those who exploit the illegals. Win-win all around, instead of your approach of pretending that no problem exists.

[junta]

"Mexican-American" back to bloodlines again are you? Seems to me since conservatism is the greatest of all universal creeds one need not tune it specifically to this or that group, at least that is what you are trying to say when you drop the "racist" bomb.

[FITZ]

That Dubya has Mexican relatives by marriage has been a major electoral advantage, protecting him from the claims of Demonrats

Of course his ties with Salinas de Gortari who stole billions of dollars from the Mexican people and then exiled to Cuba and then Ireland should make them wonder. Salinas with the murdered brother-in-law ---and he's not exactly loved by the people of Mexico who openly mock him. Salinas should have never passed background checks to be in the same room with an American president.

[MissAmericanPie]

Your arguments fly in the face of the evidence. Take a look at the blue and red election map for the truth that, where there is a concentration of illegals, the area goes to the democrats. Many, most, of these illegals are Marxists. I do not support an invasion designed to negate my vote.

I am tired of hearing Americans called racist because they have inherited not only the Constitution, but the responsibiity to see it continues. No I will not trust these people to see to it that the Constitution continues until they earn my trust and they have not earned my, or any other conservatives trust by the evidence of their voting habits. Sell your snake oil all you want, but it will be spit back at you.

We do have the right to protect our borders, we do have the right to protest an invasion dangerous to the Constitution, we do have the right to protest our votes being negated, and we do have a right to protest our culture being dismantled, an I don't give a flying monkey what color the invaders are. It isn't about color, I doubt it ever has been. And this lame race card isn't buying what it use to anymore, the strip has worn smooth. No one is buying this bottle of snake oil anymore.