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To: BlackElk
Look, you stated that if the Pope entered this country illegally (committing a criminal act, breaking the law, ect...), you would vote him not guilty.

Fine. They I asked you if the Pope was above the law. Again what crimes can the Pope commit and not be found guilty of.

Yes it is all hypothetical, but it is not silly. The question still stands. What crimes, is the Pope allowed to commit?

You stated that the Pope is above the law. So how far above the law is the Pope. What crimes can he commit?

I did not answer your previous question, because you know as well as I, that Congress would grant the request ASAP.

But that is not the point. The point is, you stated that the Pope is above the law, and I state he is not.

472 posted on 01/17/2003 3:09:26 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector; dirtboy
We are having an unnecessary argument here. Under the overall circumstances of the AmChurch liberals and the publicizing (and a good and necessary publicizing I would say as a Catholic) of their craven behavior, some of us are a bit touchy as to suggestions of papal child molestation.

We have told each other what we believe as to how one should react to papal "crimes" against the United States. Neither is likely to change his mind. I might add that the pope is also the secular monarch of a foreign nation, Vatican City, whose diplomatic credentials have been fully accepted by the United States since Ronaldus Magnus was president. JP II also enjoys diplomatic immunity unlike the head of any other religion not because he is a religious leader but because he is a monarch.

I suspect that you were previously complaining to my reference to your lengthy posted table of national origins of "illegal" entrants caught at the Mexican border. I don't have the number of the post at my fingertips but I believe that I was responding to someone else who claimed that your table did more than it purported to do. In that circumstance, since there was nothing negative about you I would not feel compelled to ping you. I think I was then responding to your saying something to another poster to the effect that I must not have practiced criminal law, which, given that I have previously posted here that I practiced criminal law for twenty-five years, might be construed as calling me dishonest as to my prior profession (I am retired). For whatever it is worth, I don't think you intended not to inform me. I have been called on the failure to notify others under such circumstances. I try to call others on it as well.

In any event, the pope has diplomatic immunity which is the answer to your question. BUT, if I were examined for jury duty and asked whether his title would affect my vote, I would say yes. That is why God or the Founding Fathers or the Common Law invented challenges to potential jurors.

475 posted on 01/17/2003 3:35:09 PM PST by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey)
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