[ZULU]

"Ashcroft's voice, Grijalva added, "is needed now to make clear that private armed groups claiming law enforcement powers have no role in patrolling our border with Mexico."

Right!!!

What we really need is armed soldiers with loaded M-16s and fixed bayonets, guard dogs, watchtowers, electrified fences, mione fields, and machine gun nests to keep these sneaking pests out of here.

BUT, since we don't have those, the next best thing is private armed groups.

Since Grijalva obviously has more concern for Spanish American invaders than American border security, perhaps he should go south himself.

(Isn't it interesting. Despite ALL the "faults" the leftist social engineers have with our country, America is one of the countries with the biggest problems with invaders trying to sneak in rather than refugees trying to escape.

When is the last time somebody tried to sneak into Bolivia, or Laos, or the Sudan for a better life??

(By the way, the Feds should penalize jurisdictions which flaunt immigration laws - like New York and Los Angeles, and deport people who actively aid and abet illegal invaders
- like a lot of our modern day "clergymen".)

[BlackElk]

If the federales were to punish jurisdictions that flaunt federal immigration law, they would have to start by punishing-----the federales---- and most specifically INS, as I suspect you would agree.