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To: Spiff
Checked your profile. Question: If a man stands AGAINST the freedom of some men just because they were born on the "wrong side" of a border, is he still standing with God? What would a patriot and a man of God like Mormon Prophet and US Secretary of Agriculture Ezra Taft Benson say? I am not a Mormon but I have known and respected many and I have always been under the impression that it is a worldwide religion and not just an American one, much less an American nativist one. Am I wrong on that?

You too complain about "illegals" accessing welfare schemes but I don't notice you taking the genuinely conservative and perfectly legal approach of abolishing all welfare. Instead, you are suggesting that, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments notwithstanding, we should simply deny welfare benefits to "persons" among us while maintaining them for ourselves. Your argument is with the authors of the Bill of Rights and with the Civil War era Congresses and the legislatures of both eras and not with me.

All of it sinks in but you are wrong and you advocate lawbreaking! Any applicable part of the constitution trumps any statute or any referendum or any executive order. Don't you agree?

You are wrong. Does that sink in?

117 posted on 01/14/2003 11:50:07 AM PST by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey)
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To: BlackElk
All of it sinks in but you are wrong and you advocate lawbreaking!

If that ain't irony, I don't know what is. We're in favor of stopping illegal immigration and we're advocating lawbreaking.

Are there any other logical concepts that you wish to attempt to destroy today, or is your work done here?

120 posted on 01/14/2003 11:55:04 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: BlackElk
Checked your profile. Question: If a man stands AGAINST the freedom of some men just because they were born on the "wrong side" of a border, is he still standing with God? What would a patriot and a man of God like Mormon Prophet and US Secretary of Agriculture Ezra Taft Benson say? I am not a Mormon but I have known and respected many and I have always been under the impression that it is a worldwide religion and not just an American one, much less an American nativist one. Am I wrong on that?

You're right - it is a worldwide religion. However, one of its tenants is that you must uphold the laws of the nations you are in. You won't find many Mormons illegaly crossing the border from Mexico. You won't find many Mormons who break federal laws to harbor and aide the illegal border intruders either.

All of it sinks in but you are wrong and you advocate lawbreaking! Any applicable part of the constitution trumps any statute or any referendum or any executive order. Don't you agree?

Show me the part of the Constitution that says that hikers can't carry their personal sidearms and if they see a crime they can't report it to the appropriate authorities. Mr. Make-believe Lawyer, please show me the "law" that these hikers are breaking. Until then, shut the hell up. You're stupid.

And, by the way, I want to do away with all socialism including welfare. I don't want anyone on welfare. Does that make me racist too because, then, a great number of blacks and hispanics would be without welfare (along with people of other races)? Same with the border. It don't care what race, nationality, or planet the border intruders come from - they must respect our border and our laws. If they don't, they should be appropriately punished, forced to pay restitution for their crimes, and permanently expelled from our nation.

You do know what a nation is, don't you? You know, that big place that has a border around it, a common language, and a common culture? Lose any of these things and you no longer have a nation. If you propose doing away with any of these things, you are proposing to do away with our nation - America - and are therefore anti-American - and you become the enemy.

125 posted on 01/14/2003 12:05:39 PM PST by Spiff
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