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To: hoosierskypilot; nopardons; Sparta
hoosierskypilot says:   "Just from what I've read on FR, I never got the idea [the Libertarian Party] were for open borders."

From Article I, section 18 (entitled: "Immigration") of the Libertarian Party Platform, adopted July 2002, Indianapolis, Indiana:

"Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested."..."We therefore call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally."
The concept of nationhood is inseparable from the concept of sovereignty. And the most fundamental expression of that sovereignty by a nation, is control over their own borders. By the words of their own party platform it is plain that the Libertarian Party expressly advocates the destruction of the sovereignty of the United States by putting and end to any control over our own borders. No controls, no borders. No borders, no sovereignty. No sovereignty, no nation.

Such insanity (even after 9-11!) is why I have always seen the Libertarian Party as the Anti-Constitutional Party (despite their shrill protests to the contrary). And that is why I find myself in complete agreement with nopardons when he observes that: "Libertarians are the enemy within the Conservative Movement". I would only add that this enemy is a "fifth column" enemy masquerading as patriotic Americans that, ostensibly, only a want a return to a constitutional form of government.

Do I see every libertarian as an explicit enemy? No, some are just young, ignorant and still have some growing up left to do, some are blinded by bitterness and anger, while others have never come to grips with living in a real world which always includes some degree of subordination to power. You will hear Libertarians say that "statism" is a disease, and while true statism is such, so to is the passive-aggressive behavior of Libertarianism, also a disease.

Regards,

Boot Hill

164 posted on 01/13/2003 2:13:48 AM PST by Boot Hill
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To: Boot Hill
Good post ! Keep replying with FACTS , as this is the only way to disprove ravings and / or delusional tripe.
277 posted on 01/13/2003 9:32:47 PM PST by nopardons
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