[Tall_Texan]

Effective government is not a sin. I appreciate efforts to *try* to intervene before the drunk hits the minivan full of kids. You apparently don't.

I don't think some of the solutions are particularly good or useful, such as trying to hold bartenders legally responsible for the drunk hitting the minivan. But if I'm inconvenienced for two minutes to verify that I'm driving sober, I personally don't mind because they will always find me sober and perhaps that drunk they stop won't be hitting ME or MY loved ones.

[Leisler]

Oh, so you don't mean more government upon more government.

My mistake.

You meant more government intervention upon more government.

Big difference and no doubt that will effective.

(Insert sounds of crickets)