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To: LO_IQ
That's your problem.

No, it's everybody's problem.

America is like a ship: it can only handle so many passengers.

Fact: social services are strained to the breaking point because so many of these, legal and illegal, receive welfare, etc.

Fact: many hospitals are shutting down their emergency rooms (three in my immediate area) largely because of the flood of immigrants, legal and illegal, demanding free medical services.

Fact: housing prices are going through the roof in many communities, because immigrants, legal and illegal, are straining the market.

Granted, they are not all Mexican, but, the issue we are discussing is whether or not they have a right to be here. (The illegals and incoming, that is.)

The problem is that GW is going to grant blanket amnesty to all illegals. That's the issue.

The problem is that current, existing immigration laws are not being enforced. That's the problem.

58 posted on 01/11/2003 4:28:05 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
Let’s pretend your response is factual:

America is like a ship: it can only handle so many passengers.

False Analogy. I believe America is underpopulated.

Nevertheless, assuming we have the right population now, white Americans do not reproduce at the replacement rate. Therefore, we must import immigrants to supply our job market.

Fact: social services are strained to the breaking point because so many of these, legal and illegal, receive welfare, etc.

Good. Dismantle socialism.

Fact: many hospitals are shutting down their emergency rooms (three in my immediate area) largely because of the flood of immigrants, legal and illegal, demanding free medical services.

Provide incentives for all employers to provide medical insurance to all employees. Or devise any other market-oriented solution so every American has access to medical insurance.

Fact: housing prices are going through the roof in many communities, because immigrants, legal and illegal, are straining the market.

Move. Sell your expensive California home and buy ten mansions in Kansas.

Granted, they are not all Mexican, but, the issue we are discussing is whether or not they have a right to be here. (The illegals and incoming, that is.)

You keep muddling the waters. You don’t have any right to be here either if Mexican-Americans do not have the same right. Mexican-Americans are not less American than Irish-Americans or German-Americans or Heinz57-Americans.

The problem is that GW is going to grant blanket amnesty to all illegals. That's the issue.

Let’s discuss that in another occasion. I don’t get tangled with hypotheticals. The anti-Bush crowd was also saying the Bush will not nominate Judge Pickering.

The problem is that current, existing immigration laws are not being enforced. That's the problem.

We all want our current laws to be enforced, and that’s a legitimate issue.

62 posted on 01/11/2003 4:48:45 PM PST by LO_IQ
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To: hoosierskypilot
i agree that immigration is everyone's problem. Those who say we are "underpopulated" are so out of touch with reality that there is no point arguing with them.

Look at all the traffic jams, the destruction of our historic sites, the urban sprawl. etc. Sure we have a lot of undeveloped areas, but mostly those areas don't have the water supply to support communities. Are we supposed to cut down our redwood forests and the Gettysburg battlefield to accomodate the population growth?

Our quality of life would be a lot better if there were fewer people. No one has yet come up with a realisitc answer why it is good for this country to keep bringing in more and more immigrants?

76 posted on 01/11/2003 10:55:15 PM PST by Dante3
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