To: dcwusmc
Ultimate ownership can only go to God, when you think about it. But, in a civilized society, with laws, physical ownership is actually to the government. Otherwise they could not take your land if you didn't pay your property taxes, or if you gained in by committing felonious acts.
If you PHYSICALLY owned your property, how far would that ownership extend? How far up into the sky would you own the air over it? How far down under the Earth would you own? Could you destroy your land and make it one giant hole in the Earth? If it was TRULY yours, you could. It's not though. You simply own certain RIGHTS to that land. That is what transpires when one purchases land or a home. You are purchasing the building and RIGHTS to the land it's on. That it all. You cannot physically OWN the land.
481 posted on
01/19/2003 12:12:38 PM PST by
Texaggie79
(seriously joking or jokingly serious, you decide)
To: Texaggie79
Amazing? That smoking crack in a community isn't a human right?
If you lived off in your own land, on an island, perhaps, it's your right, but you don't have that right when in a state where your fellow citizens are threatened by your activity.
437 -ta79-
No, tex, your amazing claim is that ALL land in the U.S. is owned by FedGov. Please cite that claim.
450 dcwusmc
Ultimate ownership can only go to God, when you think about it. But, in a civilized society, with laws, physical ownership is actually to the government. Otherwise they could not take your land if you didn't pay your property taxes, or if you gained in by committing felonious acts.
If you PHYSICALLY owned your property, how far would that ownership extend? How far up into the sky would you own the air over it? How far down under the Earth would you own? Could you destroy your land and make it one giant hole in the Earth? If it was TRULY yours, you could. It's not though. You simply own certain RIGHTS to that land. That is what transpires when one purchases land or a home. You are purchasing the building and RIGHTS to the land it's on. That it all. You cannot physically OWN the land.
481 -ta79-
That is quite a nonsourced, opinionated "cite" there aggie, which I'm sure roscoe will take you to task about.
But, in any case, what I find fascinating, is that you admit that abusing 'drugs' is OK, --
-- "If you lived off in your own land, on an island, perhaps, it's your right".
But that "you don't have that right when in a state where your fellow citizens are threatened by your activity".
Here you show not only your basic ignorance of criminal law, but your distain for our constitutional method of applying the law to assure individual liberty.
Your mere fears & imaginings that activities are taking place that 'threaten' you, -- are not grounds for criminal law regulating the behavior of your neighbors.
In fact, such paranoia on your part may make a case for your own commitment, if you overreact on protecting yourself from your own fantasies.
483 posted on
01/19/2003 1:27:15 PM PST by
tpaine
To: Texaggie79
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzt Wrong answer. Property ownership IS in the individual and NOT the government. In fact, FedGov is prohibited from owning land except with permission from the legislatures of the several States. Look it up. State and local gov'ts maintain the fiction that they can tell you what to do with your land... but it doesn't always wash, especially out in the country. They CAN, under the fifth amendment, take property, but must pay for it at the going rate. Your air rights go to the end of the atmosphere, but the Supremes have ruled that air traffic may pass without payment to you... however, you may build a tower of whatever size you like and compel air traffiic to detour. Your rights theoretically go to the center of the earth, but you'd find it rather hot there, like a precursor to the hell reserved for authoritarians and other thugs. If you wish to dispute this, please provide the cites for your stance. Otherwise stand exposed as a fraud.
488 posted on
01/20/2003 6:56:46 PM PST by
dcwusmc
("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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