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O'Reilly Factor Transcript: What Has Hillary Clinton Done for the 9/11 Families? | 11/28/01

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the second Personal Story segment tonight, Tip O'Neill once said, "All politics are local." And since 9/11, there have been thousands of funerals and memorial services held in the state of New York for the victims of the terror attack. Mayor Giuliani and Governor Pataki have attended scores of them.

But we noticed that Senator Hillary Clinton was not around very much. So we sent both Senator Clinton and Senator Chuck Schumer letters asking them which services they attended and which families they visited.

Predictably, Senator Clinton's office ignored the letter and our repeated phone calls, most likely because the only events we know she attended were three highly publicized memorial services.

Senator Schumer's office said he attended about 10 funerals and they would provide a list for us.

With us now is Anthony Gardner, who lost his brother, Harvey, at the World Trade Center and who has started a Web site for the families who have lost loved ones. And writer Beth Harpaz covered Mrs. Clinton for the Associated Press and authored the book The Girls in the Van.

All right, Mr. Gardner, I want to start with you, because I know you're very active in a number of the things regarding the families of the victims. Did you contact Hillary Clinton?

ANTHONY GARDNER, LOST BROTHER AT WORLD TRADE CENTER: I did. On several occasions I left voicemail on her general mailbox, just with the far-fetched hope that she would hear the message. I invited her to come and be on our board of advisers to help us with the nonprofit support group that we created, WTC United Family Group, in the hope to unite all the families, to bring them together, to provide emotional support.

I've never had any feedback back from her office, not even from an assistant of an assistant or anyone.

O'REILLY: All right, so you've left it how many voicemails?

GARDNER: Only about two, just because...

O'REILLY: All right, two voicemails in her New York office, right?

GARDNER: In her New York office.

O'REILLY: OK, and you didn't hear back.

GARDNER: Never heard back.

O'REILLY: That's not unusual. And I want to be fair. And you know how these politicians are...

GARDNER: Oh, I understand that.

O'REILLY: ... and, you know, we don't hear back from them, and we...

GARDNER: I knew it was a far-fetched thing...

O'REILLY: ... (UNINTELLIGIBLE) every day.

GARDNER: ... I just thought that she might be eager to help us.

O'REILLY: Mrs. Clinton attended three memorials, as far as we know, and all three were major media events. You attended one of them, wasn't it?

GARDNER: Yes, I was at the one at the actual site, and I was standing right up by the front of the stage. And when she proceeded to take her seat, she was booed by many people. And I was kind of surprised by that. I thought, What did she do that outraged so many families that at this solemn occasion, solemn time, that they would make the effort to boo her?

O'REILLY: This was at ground zero.

GARDNER: This was at the ground zero site. I don't really remember time-wise right now.

O'REILLY: No, it was in early October...

GARDNER: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

O'REILLY: ... and then subsequently she went to the concert in Madison Square Garden and got booed there.

I'm not so sure that we're being fair to her right now, Beth. But we must tell the audience that she is impossible to deal with as far as the press is concerned, won't answer questions, staff is as arrogant as I've ever seen any staff in 25 years of reporting, send them a letter, send them a nah (ph). As Mr. Gardner said, totally say hey (ph). And I'm not using the two words, but that's basically what they say. Am I wrong here?

BETH HARPAZ, AUTHOR, COVERING HILLARY: She can be difficult to get access to, there's no question about it. I mean, for one thing, she -- her staff and she are overwhelmed with media requests. I mean, she is, you know, the most famous woman in the country.

O'REILLY: But isn't this pretty important? When you send a letter saying, "Mrs. Clinton, would you tell us what families you visited and what funerals and memorial services you attended?" that's a pretty easy question to answer, is it not?

HARPAZ: Yes, I mean, I'm not here to defend Hillary Clinton, but I will say that her -- you know, her core supporters and the main victim groups of 9/11 are pretty -- pretty much two distinct groups. You know, we have a lot of male-dominated professions here, firefighters, cops, Wall Street, a lot of suburbanites, a lot of political conservatives in, you know, the Wall Street culture...

O'REILLY: So what? What difference does that make?

(CROSSTALK)

HARPAZ: Well, if she's going to go someplace and get booed, why would you choose to go to a funeral and perhaps cause people to have...

O'REILLY: Surely out of...

HARPAZ: ... more bad feelings than they already have?

O'REILLY: All right. I understand. But surely out of the thousands of people who were put in the ground in New York State, there wasn't one family that her staff could come up with that she could lend some support? She couldn't go to visit one family? Not a single? This is the worst political mistake I have ever seen in 25 years of covering politics.

Senator Hillary Clinton, just elected in New York State, ignored every single funeral and every single memorial service that was held unless it was a median (ph) event. Am I wrong?

HARPAZ: As far as I know, she didn't publicly attend any of these funerals, but you say we...

O'REILLY: She didn't go.

HARPAZ: ... haven't had any evidence of it. On the other hand...

O'REILLY: No. If you were the new senator, wouldn't you...

HARPAZ: ... she...

O'REILLY: ... have gone?

HARPAZ: Well, on the other hand, she's been busy in Washington doing what senators do...

O'REILLY: She's been busy in Washington.

HARPAZ: ... she's been introducing a lot of legislation that's related to 9/11.

O'REILLY: Yes, we're all busy.

HARPAZ: She (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

O'REILLY: You know, I mean, I think Mayor Giuliani's pretty busy.

HARPAZ: Well, she's met with small-business people downtown...

O'REILLY: Well, you know (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

HARPAZ: ... she's been appropriating money...

O'REILLY: ... you say you're not an apologist for her, you know how you sound? It's ridiculous. She's met with small-business people? What do you think, Mr. Gardner? You lost your brother.

GARDNER: I really have no thoughts on Hillary Clinton, aside from the fact that, you know, no one has ever made an effort to contact us or...

O'REILLY: But you're a New Yorker, right?

Great catch. O'Reilly has a talent for eliciting memorable quotes from clinton sycophants.

LUCINDA FRANKS: I think you're wrong because, after about two years of -- of working on this, you know, on and off, I think the president -- that the teenage culture caused the president's behavior in the way he behaved in -- with the oral sex.

BILL O'REILLY: I think you're crazy, Ms. Franks, with all due respect.
Fellating Kids and clinton Degeneracy: The Revisionism Begins

"Be Liberal, Live in Ignorance and Servitude"
by Gail Wynand

Liberals have always had problems figuring out causation. They believe for example that because people who smoke (sometimes) have higher rates of cancer than people who don't that smoking CAUSES cancer, worse, they believe that if people get cancer it is the fault of the "tobacco companies" (i.e., caused by the manufactures of tobacco products). They further believe that the remedy for this fault is that billions of dollars in "damages" should be transferred from the wealth of stockholders in tobacco companies to a handful of plaintiffs lawyers including the First Lady's relatives and others closely associated with the Democratic party. And they believe, apparently, that if young people are now experimenting with sex at early ages and with more profoundly explicit practices than in past years, and that if the President of the United States decides to enroll a young intern in rendition of such services to his middle aged libido resultantly staining both her dress and America's reputation, that a spontaneous wave of teenage sex experimentation, sucked (sorry) the poor middle aged chief executive into its vortex.
Deducing causation in most events takes deliberate, focused, thought, insight, and a disciplined intelligence that doesnt skip foundational indoctrination (aka actually studying in school). Causation of the diseases associated with cancer is highly complex and to a large degree still unknown. That smoking is probably not healthy for you is well known. That a middle aged chief executive, Yale Law School graduate, former professor of Constitutional Law and State Attorney General should be responsible and accountable for his own actions including HIS perjury and obstruction of justice would seem axiomatic to all but a liberal who has the capacity to adopt causationally convenient theories based solely on tangential proximity to the event under examination rather than through any rational analysis of the importance or significance of the asserted cause to the event. Thus, "guns" are used in some murders therefore, to a liberal all "guns" should be either banned or kept in locked safes with trigger locks so as to disarm the law abiding public and eviscerate their legally recognized right to effective self defense.
Quite simply, one has to be pretty stupid or very corrupt or both to be a liberal, at least and for sure to be a Clinton supporter. But it is worse than that, one also has to deny the importance of human consciousness and free will. That is, a Clinton defending liberal apparently believes that childhood psychic trauma, teenage sex trends (remarkably and largely only rampant among the social classes targeted by liberals for social intervention for the past 40 years) and the power of "addiction" which used to be considered merely "habituation" in more stalwart times, are more significant than free will in determining human conduct.

Clearly someone should notify America's founders that they have erred... men are not deserving of self goverment, because clearly self government is nothing more than the aggregation of all our psychic traumas and libidinal confusions.. and look where that has gotten us...one Clinton leaving the white house and one aiming for the US Senate for the State of New York... perhaps the liberals ARE onto something? But no, study the last two Clinton elections carefully... this most shameless and shameful American President is the product of plurality (less than majority) votes obtained through the gile and intrigue of an elitist cabal of intellectually impaired and ethically corrupt media manipulators aligned in effect with the electoral tampering of one man, H. Ross Perot, who although he occasionally gave a good speech was still intelligent enough to know his only role was to twice deny the conservative majority of American voters a first choice for President. And now even as Evita determinedly grasps for the Security Power and Influence of the Senate seat, one sees in her early campaigning the overriding awareness that her only hope is the sowing of confusion and ignorance... the demonization of a long time public servant whose accomplishments are towering, the pandering to the lowest and most depraved and corrupt anti social organizations and figures (no not the mob, the teachers unions and Mr. Sharpton). Arm in arm this body of liberal enthusiasts march forth to assure that America continues to be contaminated and disabled by their control of government into the 21st century... arrogantly and in complete disregard of truth, rationality, or the notion of liberty... they pound at the very gates of freedom, threatening to burn (redefine to mean the opposite of what they say) the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Gettysburg Address and replace them with their own Orwellian Banners of "community" "children" "education" "fairness" and all the other focus group tested liberal-illogicisms. But the translation exists and when the alien identifying sunglasses are donned all of their slogans can be seen to read "Be Liberal, Live in Ignorance and Servitude"

Another O'Reilly exclusive:

September 11 changed a lot of things for me, Bill. I will say this, before September 11, I was definitely mildly myopic in terms of my political agenda. If you were Democrat you were probably right, and if you were a Republican you were probably wrong. Everything changed for me that day...

My entire worldview changed. If you would have told me September 9 that I would have been at the world series game filming George Bush throwing out the first pitch with my 6-year-old son crying, I never would have believed you, but I was. Because my whole worldview changed.

ROSIE O'DONNELL

What did he know. . . and when did he know it ?

by Mia T
5.17.02

"The instant that second plane hit, I said to the person with whom I was speaking, 'Bin Laden did this.' I knew immediately. I know what this network can do."

bill clinton

Clinton's FBI Learned In 1995 Of Plot To Use Terror Jetliner

Clinton Warned on Bin Laden Hijack-Kamikaze Plot

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President
by Mia T, 1.06.02

In May, 1996, American diplomats were informed in a Sudanese government fax that Bin Laden was about to be expelled -- giving Washington another chance to seize him. The decision not to do so went to the very top of the White House, according to former administration sources.

They say that the clear focus of American policy was to discourage the state sponsorship of terrorism. So persuading Khartoum to expel Bin Laden was in itself counted as a clear victory. The administration was "delighted".
Bin Laden took off from Khartoum on May 18 in a chartered C-130 plane with 150 of his followers, including his wives. He was bound for Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. On the way the plane refuelled in the Gulf state of Qatar, which has friendly relations with Washington, but he was allowed to proceed unhindered.
Barely a month later, on June 25, a 5,000lb truck bomb ripped apart the front of Khobar Towers, a US military housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. The explosion killed 19 American servicemen. Bin Laden was immediately suspected...

US missed three chances to seize Bin Laden

Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000

"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."
Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women

the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;
. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'

In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?
The Placebo President:
How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist

placebo effect n.

A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment
that arises from the patient's expectations concerning
the treatment rather than from the treatment itself.

Every woman adores a Fascist,

The boot in the face, the brute

Brute heart of a brute like you.

----Sylvia Plath

The placebo effect immediately came to mind
as I listened to Shelby Steele,
a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,
debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.
To wit:
A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;
clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.

The error in these statements arises, says Steele,
from the belief that
virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility
so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by
one's political positions on issues rather than on
whether or not in one's personal life there is a
consistency and a responsibility.

Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,
rather than being the amazing advantage
the clintons would have us believe,
in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.

If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous
then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,
that is to say they just represent virtuousness.
They don't necessarily do virtuous things.

If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,
clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,
systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .

I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.
I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,
producing a real, physiological and social effects.

The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.
Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.
The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:
act now, think later

bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.
Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."
And please he does
doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.
To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.
Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.
Or to confute his genuine vice.

clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)
at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...
or at the hint of high treason...

clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.
Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer
so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.

The efficaciousness of today's medicines
does not diminish the power of the placebo.
A recent review of placebo-controlled studies
found that placebos and genuine treatments
are often equally effective.
If you expect to get better, you will.

Which brings me back to the original question:
Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?

Clearly he cannot.
These two propositions are mutually exclusive.
clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.
He has violated his covenant with the American people.

Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,
he can no longer function even as a quack;
the placebo effect is gone.
And so the Placebo President must now go, too.