Posted on 01/10/2003 7:44:35 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:39:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
So millions of women pay big bucks to get bigger hooters so they can "dump shallow men"?
Live with a woman, have lots of kids, but never, ever, ever marry. It is better for the kids as well. At least they will always have a loving dad who is not destroyed by the disgusting lawyers and courts, as I have seen so many great and decent guys.
Previous generations expected to be with the same mate forever. Recent generations watched their moms and dads divorce, shack-up, remarry (or not), divorce again, end up lonely, etc. It's no wonder today's women want to do it "different" than their mom's.
This is not the fault of divorce courts. It's the fault of the parents who selfishly ended their marriages and raised a generation of terrified adolescents. I'd like to see the statistics compared between young adults who willingly find mates and marry versus young adults who can't commit or claim they can't find mates. I'd bet a high percentage of unmarried women and men come from unhappy families.
No. So they can have LOTS of shallow men. Only the men are too shallow to have figured that out, obviously.
Neither sex has a monopoly on shallowness.
Yes, we men like long legs, a nice figure, and large breasts. Most will readily admit that.
Women like tall guys who are well hung and who know how to talk sweet to them (regardless of whether they are telling the truth or not). Most will not readily admit that.
Some years back, I read an article about a local contractor whose wife was awarded his own hand-built house when she divorced him. He figured it would be a more equitable arrangement for her to have half of his house -- so he cut it in half right down the middle and demolished "his" half.
I know, so why did my wife leave me for a shorter, long-haired, less endowed, tattoed, pierced, piece of (explative deleated)!!!!!Hell, he even made less money, had been divorced twice himself, and was living with another woman when he started fooling around with my wife!! I also doubt if they will get married either. Why whould he? All he would need to get out of this relationship.....is a suitcase! No need to buy the cow, when she will put out for free!
Some posters here would think it's because you're "shallow".
Seriously though, my previous post was only a generalization, and if anyone is capable of writing a book explaining why women do the things they do, they'll be a millionaire.
About a couple of years ago i went to a baptist church singles group..i was so incredibly unorganized....they didn't even have anyone to welcome visitors or anything...almost felt like i was intruding on their cliques.
Some...i am sure some aren't...but the feeling is that MOST are....thats why they usually ask "so what do you do for a living"....just a thot...i could be wrong!
More basic than that, would be to get men and women to better understand what each other want (A task I'm going to have to deal with, with three daughters, and the oldest a teen)
From conversations with my male friends, many divorced, one big issue is trust and commitment. It's not necessary that a wife make lots of money. It's not necessary for her to be beautiful, or an excellent cook. It IS necessary for her to be trustable, because once the wedding ring is on her finger, she is in a unique position to destroy him, should she ever feel like it. An intelligent man would sooner put a rattlesnake in his bed, than a women who he thinks might shaft him the moment she becomes unhappy with him, decides his career is not going anywhere, or feels he's not doing enough to keep her happy
In post #127, sonserae mentioned her desire for "a man who will protect and pursue their love...and who will risk his life to do so". The counterpart of this level of devotion is a woman who would dedicate her life to her man. Why should a man be prepared to DIE for a woman who is not prepared to LIVE for him?
A high-quality product will only be delivered to someone who is willing to pay the required price.
The thing is, at least in destroying your property rather than letting it be stolen, you are in some degree still the master of it. Also, your own efforts aren't be used to support someone, or an idea, that you despise.
A problem with many women is excessive self-esteem, by which I mean an excessive impression of what they're worth. Twenty years ago, I knew a woman, a secretary at a small firm I worked for. She was 30 and gorgeous. She decided that she was going to marry a wealthy business owner, and would settle for nothing less. It didn't penetrate that her competition for the kind of guy she wanted was intense, with any number of gorgeous 25-year-old MBAs chasing the same guys. When I last saw her, she was 40, still unmarried, and delivering drinks in a bowling alley.
Guys have a big advantage over women in the dating game: we're the ones who are supposed to do the asking. Getting shot down multiple times results in a more realistic idea of who you stand any chance with. Lots of guys like to look at Victoria's Secret models -- few have any expectation of actually scoring a date with one. Too many women subscribe to the Cinderella/"Pretty Woman" fantasy: if they wait long enough, Prince Charming (or his modern equivalent as played by Richard Gere) will come along to take them away to his palace/mansion. They mostly wind up single, middle-aged, and bitter.
Your plaintive groans about untrustworthy/manipulative/ scheming women, is just the same old same old whinge, from feckless, girlymen here. What's up with this ? Can't you guys , after dating a woman for three months or so, figure out what she's really like ? Don't you talk ever really talk to women , or is it that you don't listen ? Yes, some people, men & women are actors ; however, there are clues and gut feelings about people we interact with and if you disregard them, then it's your own fault for winding up with a harridan.
I should charge for this advice, but since we're all supposedly on the same side, here's some tips for dating / wooing / finding a mate.......................
If you have any friends at all, ask them if they know any single women. Don't stay cooped up in your house/apartment and moan about there being no one out there; get out there ! Join whatever you can ( that interests you ) and meet new people. Don't be afraid to talk to a girl and don't be afraid to ask her out! When/IF you go out, don't be selfish, don't be an eogmaniac, and don't talk about sports, your job, or yourself ( unless SHE brings it up !),and ask her questions about what she is interested in...and don't forget politics ! Yes, it used to be that politics, money, and religion were forbidden topics ; they no longer are. Get to know her; REALLY get to know her and that does NOT mean sexually ! Forget what the feminazis have been screaching about for 40 years; open doors, help her on with her coat, be kind, respectful, charming, and don't expect sexual favors because you paid for dinner and/or a movie. Don't be an " empty suit " ! Be interesting, funny, and have at least four topics of conversation that you are knowledgable about ( NOT including football, hockey, basketball,baseball, your work, old girl friends ) that you can chat about.
Going out to dinner : Know what wine goes with what, know a little bit about food, and for goodness sakes, have GREAT table manners !
If and when " dating " becomes more serious, DO get into the nitty gritty about children, religion, and whatever is important to YOU. If you find someone, whom you think is compatable, you won't be, if your tastes, wants, and needs are dissimilar ! MEET HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY MORE THAN ONCE OR TWICE BEFORE YOU GET " SERIOUS ".
They "myth " , as you called it, about meeting MISS RIGHT at a party, is NOT a myth at all. I met my husband at a party one of my friends threw. Some of my daughter's friends met their husbands because they were brought into/part of the group she is a part of. Though her core group contains girls she went to school with, they all have brought in " new " people and still do.
The marriage penalty tax is on two ( husband & wife ) earner incomes. This has NOTHING to do with married couples with one breadwinner; ergo, your specious, error riddled pronoucement about that, is not only erronious, but spurious. President Bush's new tax plan eliminates this tax and also raises the $600 child exemption to $1,000 ( per child ) and he'll probably get it passed.
Extremely import thing : DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT !
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