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To: Max McGarrity
My grandmother died of cancer most likely acquired from exposure to secondhand smoke.

Ditka is an ass if he thinks his opinion has any scientific weight.

I'm against these far-reaching bans on smoking, but let's not pretend they're anything other than cancer sticks.

140 posted on 01/12/2003 6:39:57 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
My grandmother died of cancer most likely acquired from exposure to secondhand smoke.

That's unlikely, though not impossible if she lived and worked with smokers for 40 or 50 years. But that kind of exposure would be required, not having dinner periodically in a smoker-friendly restaurant or working at one.

Ditka is an ass if he thinks his opinion has any scientific weight.

How come Ditka's "anecdotal evidence" isn't as important as yours? Seems to me he's arguing private property and choice, anyway.

I'm against these far-reaching bans on smoking, but let's not pretend they're anything other than cancer sticks.

You don't like smoking, don't smoke. You don't like being around smoke, don't go where smokers are. Problem solved. No "scientific weight" necessary, though I can provide you with that if you really want it. And thank you for supporting private property rights.

142 posted on 01/12/2003 7:35:28 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: xm177e2
My grandmother died of cancer most likely acquired from exposure to secondhand smoke.

Ditka is an ass if he thinks his opinion has any scientific weight.

I doubt if he thinks his opinion carries scientific weight - anecdotes are meant for popular appeal, not scientific validity. His and yours.

I'm against these far-reaching bans on smoking, but let's not pretend they're anything other than cancer sticks.

I don't think that this discussion is about whether or not smoking is hazardous to your health. It is about whether or not the government should have the ability to decide whether a private business owner must restrict his clientel to non-smokers or not based on the desires of a few busybodies.

Also, I must point out that while there is pretty good evidence that smoking is hazardous to ones' health, second hand smoke's effects on the population is much more obscure. There is little evidence that second hand smoke has anywhere near the same effect on lung health that direct smoking does. This would be particularly true when there is adequate air filtration.

144 posted on 01/12/2003 7:47:26 PM PST by meyer
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To: xm177e2
“My grandmother died of cancer most likely acquired from exposure to secondhand smoke.”

Really? Because there isn’t one, none, zero, zip, nada….study printed in a per reviewed scientific publication that has found any, at all, statistically even in the smallest amounts of correlation, let alone causation between SHS and cancer.

Now if your are lazy or stupid enough to believe the mass media, well then this is news to you…

164 posted on 01/13/2003 6:19:05 PM PST by Leisler
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