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Bush May Enter Affirmative Action Case...
Associated Press

Posted on 01/10/2003 6:25:04 PM PST by RCW2001

By Ron Fournier
AP White House Correspondent
Friday, January 10, 2003; 8:56 PM

WASHINGTON –– Bush administration lawyers are laying the groundwork to oppose a University of Michigan program that gives preference to minority students, a step that would inject President Bush into the biggest affirmative action case in a generation.

Bush himself has not decided what role, if any, the administration will play in the landmark case but several officials said Friday night he is unlikely to stay on the sidelines. White House political allies are planning to intervene against the Michigan program nonetheless.

The administration officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, pointed to Bush's record in Texas and their continuing review of Clinton administration affirmative action cases as signs that the president is inclined to oppose the university's policies. Furthermore, he is likely to suggest alternatives to racial preferences that still promote diversity, officials said.

Bush is awaiting formal recommendations from Justice Department and White House lawyers before making his decision.

The Supreme Court, in its most important case this year, is expected to rule on the constitutionality of programs that gave black and Hispanic students an edge when applying to the University of Michigan and its law school.

The issue is a lightning rod both for conservative voters who back Bush and for minority voters, whom Republicans are courting.

Further complicating the White House's decision is the fallout for the GOP from the racially provocative comments that cost Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., his job as Senate majority leader. Bush denounced Lott's remarks, which were widely interpreted as nostalgia for segregation.

Siding with white students so soon after the Lott controversy could be seen as an affront to blacks.

The administration is not a party to the Michigan fight and does not have to take a position. Traditionally, however, the White House weighs in on potentially landmark cases.

Bush must decide soon. Legal briefs opposing affirmative action are due to the court Jan. 16, and briefs supporting the Michigan admissions plans are due in February.

Lawyers for political allies of the White House are drafting friend-of-the-court briefs arguing that the University of Michigan policy is unconstitutional, administration officials said.

The Justice Department is awaiting word from Bush on whether to file a brief of its own. At the least, Bush is expected to take a public stand on the matter and explain his position that racial quotas are not needed to foster diversity, officials said.

In Texas, Bush opposed racial preferences in public universities and proposed instead that students graduating in the top 10 percent of all high schools be eligible for admission. Supporters say the policy increased diversity because many schools are largely minority.

Among the cases that would bolster their argument against the University of Michigan, officials said, is a 1997 affirmative action suit that supported a white high school teacher's claim that she suffered reverse discrimination when laid off from her job. A black teacher was retained.

The Clinton administration argued that the school district's affirmative action policy went too far and could not be justified merely by the notion that a diverse teacher corps is a worthy goal.

"A simple desire to promote diversity for its own sake ... is not a permissible basis for taking race into account," the government said then.

The brief was largely written by Walter Dellinger, former head of the Office of Legal Counsel and later the Clinton administration's acting solicitor general. Administration lawyers consider at least one other Dellinger brief, a case involving a Wisconsin teacher, as further basis to argue against the University of Michigan policy.

Contacted Friday, Dellinger said the reasoning assumed that there is some role for affirmative action but noted that the tool can be wrongly used.

"The general position taken was that while the use of race is sometimes permissible in educational settings, it must be narrowly tailored and shown to advance important educational goals," he said.

In a 1995 memo analyzing the effects of a Supreme Court case over affirmative action in government contracting, the Clinton administration's Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel noted that the Supreme Court has consistently rejected racial balancing as a goal of affirmative action.

"To the extent that affirmative action is used to foster racial and ethnic diversity, the government must seek some further objective beyond the achievement of diversity itself," said the memo, largely written by Dellinger.

© 2003 The Associated Press


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To: dogbyte12
It is one thing to accuse a poster of generating low quality material. It is another to suggest that the poster supports something which they they do not, as part are parcel of a pugilistic endeavor. Neither is particularly noble frankly (attack the ideas, not the poster), but one is more ignoble than the other by a fair degree.
101 posted on 01/10/2003 8:44:15 PM PST by Torie
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To: TLBSHOW
Todd ... you are out of line and YOU KNOW IT
102 posted on 01/10/2003 8:46:01 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the DC Chapter at the Patriots Rally III on 1/18/03)
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To: Torie
Perhaps some would do better by acknowledging that just as cut and pasting is acceptable in 2nd grade, but not in 9th, that the same applies in the public forum of ideas.

There is truly nothing new under the sun, but one can at least give it an effort.

103 posted on 01/10/2003 8:47:12 PM PST by dogbyte12
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104 posted on 01/10/2003 8:47:28 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Torie
are you talking about Howlin again?
105 posted on 01/10/2003 8:47:32 PM PST by TLBSHOW (Ignore howlin she is a jesse jackson supporter)
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To: Mo1
To: Poohbah; TLBSHOW; Howlin

Why should I criticize him? I agree with him.

I went to the very thread, and cut and pasted howlin's words. You will have to excuse me, but I do not see how those words differ from the words as TLBSHOW quoted them.


81 posted on 01/10/2003 11:20 PM EST by aristeides

106 posted on 01/10/2003 8:50:29 PM PST by TLBSHOW (Ignore howlin she is a jesse jackson supporter)
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To: Fred Mertz; TLBSHOW
So, you think he's a monarch, is that it? Get a grip.

Hello??? Can you read the words that are actually in front of you instead of superimposing your own bias on them?

I said Bush will make his decision based on what he believes is best for the country, not on threats from people fantasizing that they are 'keeping his feet to the fire.' What in heavens name does that have to do with a monarchy?

And how does saying that make me an egotist? I don't imagine that the President must make every decision based on what I think is best, nor do I imagine that typing words on a Conservative forum influence his decisions.

You and TLB apparently do.

107 posted on 01/10/2003 8:50:33 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: ohioWfan
NO... you are wrong. Bush changes his mind all the time because Todd calls him a potential weepy ratty rat. He was about to put an abortion clinic in the west wing, until Todd's reasoned critique stating "Ugga Bugga Weep weep Slam but Godd Weep rat, dump Weep, Commie Rat" convinced Bush to follow the proper path.

Ann Coulter never had a better stalker either. So, let's just lay off the Toddster for a while.

108 posted on 01/10/2003 8:53:35 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Fred Mertz
So, you think he's a monarch, is that it? Get a grip.


bttt
109 posted on 01/10/2003 8:54:00 PM PST by TLBSHOW (Ignore howlin she is a jesse jackson supporter)
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To: TLBSHOW
SORRY ... Those aren't Howlin's words ..

Todd .. You really are pushing it ..
110 posted on 01/10/2003 8:54:30 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the DC Chapter at the Patriots Rally III on 1/18/03)
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To: Mo1; Howlin; TLBSHOW
They are Howlin's words. Please look at the thread. TLBSHOW provided a link earlier in this thread. And, if they were not Howlin's words, why would my cutting and pasting them from her words lead to them being here on this thread?
111 posted on 01/10/2003 8:56:58 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Mo1; Howlin
Also, if you think Howlin's words were somehow different, perhaps you could say what you think she really said, so that we can compare that with the thread.
112 posted on 01/10/2003 8:58:16 PM PST by aristeides
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To: dogbyte12
Is THAT why he didn't put that abortion clinic up?!

WELL, THANK you, Todd!

113 posted on 01/10/2003 8:58:41 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: aristeides
I said I made a mistake and misunderstood what you said. I have been mixing up Peterson and Patterson all day long (ask the Mods); I misread what you said.

But if you're going to contend that I really meant I agreed with Jesse Jackson, you're going to be dishonest.

And as I said, when I make a mistake, I own up to it.

114 posted on 01/10/2003 8:59:38 PM PST by Howlin
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To: aristeides
What is the exact link, and didn't the poster post that she inadvertently misspoke, and thus left the wrong impression? I don't know to what that referred, but it referred to something. As I say, the poster has a long history here, and the idea that she is enamored with Jackson is totally ludicrous. This topic should die.
115 posted on 01/10/2003 8:59:58 PM PST by Torie
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To: Howlin; TLBSHOW
I've already said I'm willing to believe you made that mistake. Now I'm objecting to people accusing TLBSHOW of being a liar.
116 posted on 01/10/2003 9:00:41 PM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
He is not being a gentleman in using the quote for pugilistic purposes after the poster made clear it was a misunderstanding. He is just playing games to entertain himself. He should cease and desist immediately on this matter.
117 posted on 01/10/2003 9:03:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: TLBSHOW; Fred Mertz; Howlin
So I see you can't read or think rationally either.

Knowing that the President doesn't make decisions based on YOUR words of wisdom, does not logically lead to my believing that he is a monarch.

It was a stupid, and irrelevant reply to what I said.

Perhaps you two should 'get a grip.'

And quit acting like a two year old about Howlin and Jesse Jackson, OK? Saying she supports Jackson and laughing at her only makes YOU look like a fool.......not her.

118 posted on 01/10/2003 9:03:04 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: aristeides
Perhaps if it weren't the first time he's lied, people would cut him a break.
119 posted on 01/10/2003 9:04:15 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Torie; TLBSHOW; Howlin; Poohbah
TLBSHOW provided the link at #82. Howlin has said she misspoke, but on this thread. TLBSHOW's was a natural interpretation of Howlin's words (I understood them the same way, and they were a reply to me.) I am willing to accept Howlin's assertion that she misspoke. But I insist TLBSHOW has not been lying, and I really would like to see people -- like Poohbah -- who say that he has misquoted Howlin justify that claim.
120 posted on 01/10/2003 9:04:52 PM PST by aristeides
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