Now Saudi Arabia sent Millions of dollars to build mosques, and proselyte Islam in the US. I am not saying that the federal government should pay for Christian or Jewish missionaries, but at least our government should DEMAND equality and reciprocating the freedom of worshiping. Mr. Cowboy President can easily say to King raghead, look, we let you build mosques in our country, you MUST allow our people to build churches, and synagogues in your country. If you don’t let us, we will bulldoze every single Mosque in the US that was built by Saudi Money. Do you suppose demanding equality and similar treatment would meet more opposition from our allies, or the UN? I don’t think so. I guess the US influence peddlers have been on the take from Saudi Arabia to the point today, when reasonable people read such an article that shows the biggest most powerful country in the world behaving like a bitch in prison. We have no power, and we are made to fear retaliation from a worthless raghead kingdom. Can somebody imagine our government systematically disallows any one with a Jewish surname to be stationed in this stinking desert? Where are the Jewish lawyers?
Just because our government should not side with one religion over the other according to our constitution, that does not mean that our population should suffer systematic discrimination under the hands of the narrow-minded bigoted Saudis. You can not receive a greeting card for Christmas, or even if the postage stamp has a Christmas image it must be cut off! You cannot worship on Sunday, use Tuesday instead, just to understand who the master is and who the bitch is! The excesses of the American government bending over to these ragheads directly crated 9/11! If we did not give them access to our country, visas at their travel agencies! If we had pointed out to their leaders early on in the seventies as they started to through their weight around with their petrodollar, that their fanatical way of observing Islam is not acceptable with our democracy and freedom traditions, we will not tolerate them dictating to us what to eat/wear/worship….
All of you militant Freepers think that we are using them for their oil, and to attack Saddam, but then we will go after them. I have news for you, they dominate Washington, and they are buying big wheelers dealers as Bob Strauss, Hennery Kissinger, among others. Before you drum your chest proudly as the strongest nation on earth, remember that our government made us the little bitch to the Saudis bull!
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It’s entirely possible no one on this forum disagrees with your assessment. Maybe I’ll post it somewhere else. :>) I do, only in minor ways.
I don’t think the problem is that we’ve pushed the concept of separation too far. Freedom of religion (and association), separation of church and state, the tolerance of dissent, all secular values, have, in some quarters, morphed into an peculiar form of “tolerance” which essentially decries the expression of any values or moral judgments. The expression of values is viewed my many as intolerant.
I don’t think you can view Ethiopia or Bosnia through a religious template. The suppression of Christian’s (and Jews, Hindus, women, children, and most importantly American citizens) by the Saudis, and other Islamic regimes, flies in face of America’s concept of freedom and shouldn’t be tolerated.
I’ll take a small page from GWBs tolerance book and say this shouldn’t be an issue of Islam, rather the repression of the Saudi government, but given the similar conduct of virtually all (all?) Islamic regimes, it’s a really small page. We shouldn’t restrict all the Saudis construction of Mosques or madrassas, only those that preach anti-Americanism and hate. A nearly invisible distinction.
I agree completely, discrimination against American’s shouldn’t be allowed anywhere, and discrimination against their own citizens should roundly condemned.
As to buying our politicians, they're more responsive to votes, we can change that. Maybe everyone who agrees with you or Pipes should write an EMail or forward this article, maybe both.
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President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov
FAX: 202-456-2461
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov
Secretary of state: Colin Powell: Secretary@state.gov
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Can somebody imagine our government systematically disallows any one with a Jewish surname to be stationed in this stinking desert? Where are the Jewish lawyers?
As an aside, during the buildup to Desert Storm the ADL (not usually my favorite people) did object to the “request” of many unit commanders that Jewish servicemen would be well served to leave their religion off their dog tags. Cheney issued a directive that this would be a purely voluntary individual decision.