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To: sinkspur
But, if a 35 year old man is masturbating like an adolescent, he might very well view women as objects.

That's pretty serious stuff for an adult male.

From that statement, I guess you've never been in a bad marriage. If not, then I'm glad for you.

As far as I'm concerned, celibacy offers no benefits for clergy who are expected to interact with the general public, especially those who are expected to give counseling to married people. I consider the Catholic church's ban on clergical matrimony to be in the same category as its condemnation of masturbation. In my response, I was merely offering an explanation of why the numbers were so high for a survey of Catholic clerical "sexual activity". Engaging in self gratification once or twice over an adult lifetime is enough to produce decades of guilt in a Catholic-trained person, yet does not constitute "masterbating like an adolescent".

84 posted on 01/09/2003 10:51:54 AM PST by hunter112
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To: hunter112
As far as I'm concerned, celibacy offers no benefits for clergy who are expected to interact with the general public, especially those who are expected to give counseling to married people.

Oh for heaven's sake! If I'm a doctor, I don't have to have cancer in order to treat it or to be empathic with my patients about it.

I'm in favor of optional celibacy for priests, or, rather, that married men ought to be called to the priesthood. But I'm not sure that even a married marriage counselor uses his own marriage as a benchmark when counselling other married people.

96 posted on 01/09/2003 10:59:37 AM PST by sinkspur
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