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This is what happens when governments try to ban guns
London Telegraph ^ | 1/5/03 | Steyn

Posted on 01/06/2003 2:03:29 PM PST by pabianice

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To: Sender
Walther PPK

Yeah the .380 is not exactly a sure stopper, but it certainly packs more punch than a fist or a rolled-up newspaper. I have a Makarov that's almost the same as the PPK with more punch and, IMHO, more class:)

Though I more generally prefer Walther's larger 9mm Parabellum P.38 in the same cartridge chambering as the old 9mm Luger and current US M9 Beretta, the last time I was in England and borrowed a handgun for the duration of my stay there, it was a Makarov that came my way, with the understanding that the cost would be $1000 if I *lost* it or otherwise sacrificed it.

That struck me as expensive at first, though ammunition, a spare magazine, shoulder holster and silencer were uincluded in the deal, and by the time my 3 weeks there was over, I was positively attracted to the clunky little shooter. I paid that somewhat steep price to hang onto it and stashed it away there, just in case I ever returned and needed a little comfort.

Once I got back here, I picked up a very nice East German Makarov, hardly used by the Stasi Secret Police, though less the sound suppressor, that suited me as well as that first one did. Unfortunately, a lady pal who was getting married needed a servicable wedding present, so I let it get away, to be replaced by a similar Hungarian FEG Walther copy that also takes the Makarov cartridge. But the FEG safety, like that on the Walther, flips up to be placed in the *fire* position, and I'm much more used to the safety of a M1911A1 .45 or Browning GP that pushes down for go- like the PM Makarov.

So for that reason and others, it's been almost a year since I had that German one, and I miss it. Looking around for another good one should make a good project for the New Year, as a substitute for the new year's resolution I never made.

The Bulgarian versions are also quite well made, and priced right at around $150-$200, though some used East German ones have also been turning up. One way or the other, I think I'll soon have a new one.


21 posted on 01/06/2003 6:26:01 PM PST by archy
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To: pabianice
"nancy-boy Canadians."

Roger that, Mark. A real bunch of puling, mincing sods in our Northern Economic Dependencies. Except Alberta. Step on board, Alberta and send the rest of those wankers off to Meech Lake.

22 posted on 01/06/2003 8:24:12 PM PST by Bedford Forrest
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Is that an eyelet for a lanyard on your 1911? Crikey, what vintage is that? Looks like it has a few miles on it.
23 posted on 01/06/2003 8:31:09 PM PST by Bedford Forrest
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To: archy
I suspect the $1000 price tag for a Makarov was largely due to the suppressor, and perhaps English politics. I found a very nice Russian Mak with adjustable sights, made in Izhevsk, at a gun show for $150. Of course, without the suppressor and without the politics :)
24 posted on 01/07/2003 12:37:55 PM PST by Sender
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To: Sender
and now for something completely different.
25 posted on 01/07/2003 12:44:08 PM PST by vin-one
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To: Bedford Forrest
Of course, in reality there is nothing at all "nancy" about Canadians. Nevertheless, they excel at presenting all sorts of illusions of nanciness, and seem oblivious to it.

Take for example, the exceedingly fine and deadly troops of "Princess Patricia's Light Infantry". Say no more! Nudge, nudge.

26 posted on 01/07/2003 1:04:36 PM PST by Sender
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Yao Zhongyu, 1974
Always keep the gun firmly in hand



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27 posted on 01/22/2003 6:04:06 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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