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To: oldcomputerguy
I don't need to answer, you are answering all your own questions. All you are looking for is a soap box. End of story.

I'm just curious what your answer is (or did you reach the conclusion others should be compelled by the force of law to provide for you without even thinking?). I'm curious how you reconcile theft in your mind. At what point does the mental blank out occur? Are two thugs in an alley 'voting' to take your money for their use unjust? How many such 'voters' does it take to make stealing a moral act in your view?

78 posted on 01/07/2003 2:33:28 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3; oldcomputerguy
I see a lot of oldcomputerguy's thinking in my older relatives. Normally conservative on most issues, they just get completely irrational and defensive about "their" social security checks. I guess it's somewhat understandable. People do tend to get ornery when you talk about something they perceive as their meal ticket.

How about this, ocg? The Bush plan (small a start as it is) provides for protecting the benefits of folks close to retirement like yourself. How about it? Can I (a younger guy) get the hell out of your great system now? I'll forfeit all the money I've paid in so far, and sign something that says I won't claim anything from the system when I retire. Just let me keep the 14% or so that's being taken now from my check each and every friggin' two weeks. OK? You keep your SS benefits. I'll invest my 14% somewhere other than with Uncle Sam. Or maybe I'll buy my kids new shoes with some of it. Or orthodontics. Or a more reliable car. Or replace the roof on the house. Or repave the driveway. Or give some more to the Parish relief fund. Or give more to a local charity. Or whatever the hell it pleases me to do with my money. The entire idea that the government has to come in, and like a good mommy, take some of my money and put it in her piggbank on the dresser in her room for a "rainy day" is just so maddening I am struggling to comply with FR's rules for posting.

79 posted on 01/07/2003 3:03:02 PM PST by borkrules
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