Just how Pro-Life is Rhode Island?

[No Dems 2004]

Would love to hear everyone's comments on the above.

[dighton]

I've heard that Rhode Island is the most Catholic state in the US . . .

Correct, at least quite recently.

Scroll down for "Top 10 U.S. States with Most Catholics, 1990."

[Batrachian]

Abortion is legal and available in Rhode Island, as in every other state. The governor can't shut them down, no matter how pro-life he is. It's an issue of federal law.

Now, get these people to vote Bush in '04 and maybe we can get him a mandate to appoint pro-life judges and reverse Roe V. Wade, then supposedly pro-life states like RI can outlaw abortion.

[No Dems 2004]

"Abortion is legal and available in Rhode Island, as in every other state. The governor can't shut them down, no matter how pro-life he is. It's an issue of federal law."

Believe me, I know that no pro-life governor anywhere can overturn Roe vs Wade. I do hope you didn't count me for being that ignorant.

But the point I'm making is that it seems quite remarkable Rhode Island would elect a pro-life governor (he can have an influence on various bits of legislation). The Northeast doesn't have a big reputation for electing pro-life governors, and that's my point. What I'm trying to ascertain is just how deep this pro-life movement is in Rhode Island.

[Arthur McGowan]

"Abortion is legal and available in Rhode Island, as in every other state. The governor can't shut them down, no matter how pro-life he is. It's an issue of federal law."

Believe me, I know that no pro-life governor anywhere can overturn Roe vs Wade. I do hope you didn't count me for being that ignorant.

Actually, this is untrue. All Supreme Court decisions purporting to make abortion "legal" are null, because it is impossible to make murder legal anywhere, anytime. What a governor cannot do is stop abortion in his state without precipitating a crisis. That's entirely different from being unable to stop abortion.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

RI may be the most catholic but it also has the highest percentage of households where the total IQ of the occupants doesn't add up to the thermostat setting.

Nothing positive will ever happen in RI.
It is a place that started out poorly and has managed to sink lower every year.

Such a shame. It would be a nice place if you got everyone who lives there to move.

[paddles]

Spent a year in Rogue Island. Very Catholic...very blue-collar. Heavy-duty union presence.

Interesting, though: VJ Day* is still a state holiday!

*Victory over Japan for those of you in Rio Linda.

[The Old Hoosier]

I've often said it, and I'll say it again: the only hope for pro-lifers in much of New England is the Democratic party. This is true in Maine, Massachusetts and Rhode Island, at least. Republicans there are totally worthless RINOs on not only social conservative issues, but other issues as well. Conservatives should think twice and examine the candidates' records in those states before reflexively voting Republican.

[No Dems 2004]

"Republicans there are totally worthless RINOs on not only social conservative issues, but other issues as well. Conservatives should think twice and examine the candidates' records in those states before reflexively voting Republican."

Except Don Carcieri, I guess.

[WOSG]

We need Catholic Conservatives in the GOP in these states to win these elections ... RINOs and the rich wimp republicans are the leftovers of the WASP culture, and their pathetic vote totals reflect how small a minority WASPs have become in New England.

Note the name of the Republican who won in Rhode Island, a nice ethnic name. :-)

[Batrachian]

Don't quibble. We both know what the realities of the situation are.

[Batrachian]

"But the point I'm making is that it seems quite remarkable Rhode Island would elect a pro-life governor"

How much of an issue did he make of abortion in his election? I suspect he never even mentioned it, certainly did not make a major issue of it. If it was a referendum on abortion he would have lost. This is still the Northeast, after all.

Of course, I'm just guessing. The only thing I know about Rhode Island is that it is small and has that big blue bug in Providence.

[JohnnyZ]

Good post, the election of pro-life governors in Rhode Island and Vermont were big victories in 2002. It should be noted that Carcieri is also fiscally conservative and pro-business.

Regarding Weygard, the Chafee opponent, in their debates he wasn't entirely pro-life, I don't think, but did support some limits, and highlighted his opposition to partial birth abortion, which Chafee defended!

Conservatives should stick to their guns and run folks who are real, blue-collar people and small businessmen, for office, instead of elitist twits like that pro-abortion Snowe aide who lost to blue collar pro-life Mike Michaud in ME-2.

[JohnnyZ]

Good post, the election of pro-life governors in Rhode Island and Vermont were big victories in 2002. It should be noted that Carcieri is also fiscally conservative and pro-business.

Regarding Weygard, the Chafee opponent, in their debates he wasn't entirely pro-life, I don't think, but did support some limits, and highlighted his opposition to partial birth abortion, which Chafee defended!

Conservatives should stick to their guns and run folks who are real, blue-collar people and small businessmen, for office, instead of elitist twits like that pro-abortion Snowe aide who lost to blue collar pro-life Mike Michaud in ME-2.

[votelife]

Interesting article. However, I would always question if a Dem was pro-life. The national party is so overwhelmingly pro-abortion (Ann Coulter has even "suggested" renaming the party the Abortion party since they are so steadfast in their support of abortion). It is always an interesting race if a Rep is for abortion and the Dem is for life.

[Coleus]

Great link, thanks..

No dems, I think most freepers know what RINO's are : )

It's a shame that the top 5 Catholic states have a primarily Democrat and or Pro abortion governor and senators in office.

http://www.nccbuscc.org/prolife/gospel.htm Good link for Catholic Voters and Politicians.

http://www.dailycatholic.org/hhsengov.htm

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2002Mar/house.htm

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[votelife]

One other thing in evaluating the life issue is that some politicians will claim to be pro-life, but aren't...Mary Landrieu, anyone? The tough choice is sometimes, but rarely, btw a pro-choice Rep who will confirm judges and a pro-life Dem, who might not...or a pro life Dem, but who will vote for leadership which won't allow a vote on a pro-life judge.

[Coleus]

Yes, I agree.

I know one thing George Bush won't be getting my vote in 2004 unless he CHANGES his ways regarding abortion and school vouchers and 2nd amendment issues--hopefully with this new Seanat and Senate Majority Leader, he will!! No, I won't be voting demonrat probably for Keyes or a third-party conservative. I'm getting really tired of phoney republicans.

BUSH appoints 5 PRO ABORTION Judges in NJ

http://www.northjersey.com/cgi-bin/page.pl?id=5670854
______________________________________________________________________
New US Senate President, Bill Frist (R.-Tenn.), a Major Shareholder in Reputed For-Profit Abortion Provider

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/12-23-02/jeffrey.htm

and supports stem-cell research, read last paragraph:

http://frist.senate.gov/testbed/press-item.cfm/hurl/id=183224

and

Senator Frist, R-TN championed confirmation
of pro-abortion Satcher,

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30100

Bush isn't really pro life.

President Bush Appoints 5 Pro-Abortion Judges to the Federal Bench in NJ.

http://www.northjersey.com/cgi-bin/page.pl?id=5670854

Bush Funds Abortion Overseas
http://www.covenantnews.com/bortvote.htm#link

The Bush Family Secret
http://www.all.org/news/bushad2.pdf
A Catholic Response to Bush's Stem Cell Decision
http://www.all.org/abac/rf001.htm
http://www.all.org/issues/broken.htm
Do We Have A Pro-Life President?
http://www.all.org/celebrate_life/cl0107d.htm
http://www.house.gov/burton/RSC/word/Akin.PDF
http://www.all.org/stopp/rr0210.htm
other
http://www.all.org/stopp/rr0103.htm
http://www.all.org/stopp/rr0205.pdf
http://www.all.org/issues/scanalyz.htm

Bush funds 'Faith-Based Condom Religion'
Bush OK's NY Medicaid Plan For Contraceptives
http://www.all.org/stopp/st021004.htm

Bush Advances Legacy Of Bad Decisions,
Broken Promises And Dead Babies
http://www.all.org/news/020709.htm

Bush's gay-friendly judicial nominees...
Log Cabin Republicans Ease Intolerance
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=14141

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[BillyBoy]

>> Don Carcieri, a strongly pro-life Republican (endorsed by pro-life groups) was elected in Rhode Island's open gubernatorial race by a margin of 55%-45% in 2002. Carcieri also vowed to veto any attempt to legalize homosexual marriage <<

You mean a social CONSERVATIVE actually WON statewide in Rhode Island?!

This is news! I wonder how the heck that happened in socialist New England (note the that "Republican" Senator from RI only won by running to the LEFT of his 'RAT opponent). One wonders if an awakening is occuring in New England and they are reverting back to the Coolidge Conservativism that they abandoned decades ago.

If we can rebuild the New-England/Mid-west Republican co-alition of the early 20th century, we can thwart the efforts of the 'RATs to win future Presidential elections by running folksy southern governors in the Carter/Clinton mold...