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To: judicial meanz; Sabertooth; Tancredo Fan; madfly; Reaganwuzthebest; WRhine; FITZ; Barnacle
Here's a thread on this very topic from all the way back in 9/12/1999.

The problem was never that everyone believed that the governors of the border states couldn't take steps to secure their own borders with Mexico, it's that those same governors refused to.

Some believed that the governors from the border states were hesitant to do this, because it would lead to a confrontation with the federal government, or they were afraid of being called racists. Yada, yada, yada.

We all know that's not true, beyond a shadow of a doubt, now.

A former, Republican, border state governor is the sitting President of The United States. The Congress is in the control of the Republicans and still not a damn thing is being done to secure our borders.

If anything, our border security is being deliberately undermined further.

Posse Comitatus and The Law

The governors of the border states are being elected by the same tidal wave of illegal immigrants that we'd be asking them to stop. The same governors that just returned from a meeting with Mexican state governors, where they discussed ways to open our borders further, are the ones we'd be petitioning to stop this madness. Fat chance of that, anymore.

The governors of the border states are hopelessly, pro-open borders, pro-illegal immigration, one (3rd) worlder, Liberal, Democrats or RINOs. That's why the newly legal and fraudulently voting illegal aliens elected them.

Look who was just elected governor of Arizona. Name one border state governor that won't resist the efforts of their concerned citizens to have their National Guard sent to the borders.

IMHO, the only reason the governors of the border states would voluntarily send their respective National Guard troops to the borders for would be to arrest or kill the courageous members of the citizens patrols and ranchers that have come together to resist the hoards of illegal immigrants that are pouring over our borders, daily.

Don't get me wrong. Keep the heat on every elected representative you can. But don't make the mistake in believing that it hasn't been done up until this point.

IMO though, the pressure to secure our borders will have to come from the citizens of the states that don't want to have the same things happen to their states that have happened to the border states.

As I said on another thread, 'The United States has gone from being the land of opportunity to being the land of illegal alien opportunists.'

And a lot of the pandering politicians from both parties are complicit.

Tom Tancredo in 2004!

I hope none of you mind my 'Pinging' you to this thread. I don't do too much 'Pinging' anymore, because Madfly, Tancredo Fan and Sabertooth 'Ping' almost the identical list of Freepers to the very same threads. Anyway, LMK.

6 posted on 01/04/2003 7:10:16 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
Good post, 4F. We are on the same page, unforuntately.

oops, sorry for the double pings. I spent a lot of time on my post.

madfly
10 posted on 01/04/2003 7:19:08 AM PST by madfly
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To: 4Freedom

Tom Tancredo
American Statesman


11 posted on 01/04/2003 7:22:20 AM PST by madfly
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To: 4Freedom
"Tom Tancredo in 2004!"

Tancredo has been getting a good deal of air time lately:
Is there any kind of 'draft Tancredo', or 'consider Tancredo', or 'encourage him to run' movement that might cause the Pub's and our president to pay attention?

13 posted on 01/04/2003 7:38:53 AM PST by norton
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To: 4Freedom
I think, IMHO, that they need illegal immigration to help pay for all those liberally inspired entitlements. Its no secret European governments need the massive influx of immigration they have to pay for socialist inspired government benefits.

If thats the case, they are hiding a budget problem.
26 posted on 01/04/2003 9:34:42 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: 4Freedom
The problem was never that everyone believed that the governors of the border states couldn't take steps to secure their own borders with Mexico, it's that those same governors refused to.

They don't care what the people in these states want, they do refuse to because they've been making deals for themselves. There's money involved so the people don't matter.

29 posted on 01/04/2003 9:40:48 AM PST by FITZ
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To: 4Freedom
The governors of the border states are being elected by the same tidal wave of illegal immigrants that we'd be asking them to stop. The same governors that just returned from a meeting with Mexican state governors, where they discussed ways to open our borders further, are the ones we'd be petitioning to stop this madness. Fat chance of that, anymore.

Great Post 4F. You brought up several interesting points. It's no accident the Governors of the Border States are in a fixed orbit with the Open Border Cabal. Both parties studiously screen out any aspiring candidate in their party that believes in a Sovereign America. These candidates never get past GO in the first round. It's why there are so few Tom Tancredos in our government (how did he make it through the gauntlet?).

To date I've focused all of my lobbying efforts on my federal representatives. Yes, that's not enough. In many ways getting involved on the local level, where the rubber meets the road, is a far more productive way to get your voice heard and get things done.

The governors of the border states are hopelessly, pro-open borders, pro-illegal immigration, one (3rd) worlder, Liberal, Democrats or RINOs. That's why the newly legal and fraudulently voting illegal aliens elected them.

Bump That. It's quite telling how the Republicans suddenly dropped their protest of Motor Voter shortly after the Democrats enacted it. Motor Voter is one of the Greatest Acts of Treason our government has ever perpetrated on the American People. Apparently many Republicans are in on the action too. Yeah, Sure, let Illegal Aliens, any kind of non-citizen vote in OUR elections. America is in rapid descent.

45 posted on 01/04/2003 12:24:26 PM PST by WRhine
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