Hungry millions denied food by Mugabe's ban (RHODESIA ALERT)

The Daily Telegraph ^ | January 4, 2003 | Peta Thornycroft

[stocksthatgoup]

Lets send Jesse Jackson...........

[stocksthatgoup]

Our forefathers founded the USA in spite of the Europeans.

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As for the British.....could it be they are feeling guilty over the starvation of the Irish back in the 1840s????

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[Cincinatus' Wife]

Residents of the Buhera district, 200 km (125 miles) south east of Harare, queue up to get food aid at a distribution center January 3, 2003. Zimbabwe, along with other southern African nations, is suffering severe food shortages caused by crop failure, drought and the ongoing political crisis. REUTERS/Howard Burditt

[happygrl]

He [Mugabe} will burn in Hell for this - it should be Britain that arranges his transport there.

Is there any evidence of an outcry in Britain for this ?

I wish it were so.

[happygrl]

Please take your rant to a thread where you know something about what you're talking about.

Zimbabwe was not a country asking for free food or water or...

It was the breadbasket of Southern Africa, exporting food to surrounding countries.

Please avail yourself of the opportunity to be educated on FR links, and take your knee-jerk responses somewhere else.

[happygrl]

Are you still spreading your racist hatred on these links ?YOU'RE no Christian. Get off and go back to your fantasy world. No one's eating anyone; you've been told that before but you enjoy posting these racist rants.

[MadIvan]

Darling:

If this article is correct, I doubt your country will be allowed to send food aid to Rhodesia. And it's quite right that the Zimbabweans did try to toss Mugabe out of office in the most recent election; whether there was fraud or not in 1980 is beside the point - representative government only can be said to be truly representative if it allows people to change their minds about who leads them.

Love, Ivan

[crystalk]

Are you sure? What about tomorrow or the day after? They will come to that, it is in the jeans.

[Republic of Texas]

The point is. We can deliver all the food Zimbabwe needs, but until the people change, most will still starve.

My point earlier was that during the FIRST election, there was the usual amount of fraud for AFRICA. A lot more than we are used to, but not for them. The people elcted this monster out of racial hatred for the white man. HE was going to get back at whitey. Now he has taken over and his hate knows no bounds. I guess thats what you get when you elect a hate-monger.

Stating that your friend was a RUETERS reporter only hurts your credibility among thinking folks, just so you know.

[crystalk]

I think she is hiding out in all-white Ireland. If she went over to Britain and was gang-raped a few times and murdered, then she would know what we were talking about.

Such a sheltered life she leads...sees blacks only in the pages of National Geographic, if she even reads that.

[Republic of Texas]

If MUGABWE is the problem, how do you explain the REST of Africa?

[Happygal]

If she went over to Britain and was gang-raped a few times and murdered, then she would know what we were talking about.

Do you even read your posts before you hit the button? That's about the most pathetic thing I've ever seen posted on FR.

Such a sheltered life she leads...sees blacks only in the pages of National Geographic, if she even reads that.

I've travelled extensively throughout Europe, the US and Canada, and parts of North Africa. So your point is?

[Republic of Texas]

You traveled and learned nothing?

[Happygal]

I guess thats what you get when you elect a hate-monger.

And on realising Mugabwe's capabilities those same people attempted to democratically remove him, but were denied that basic right. So we are to condemn them forever, even after seeing the error of their ways?

Stating that your friend was a RUETERS reporter only hurts your credibility among thinking folks, just so you know.

I stated my colleague was a Reuteurs journo because that simply was the case, and as a result of working for that company had a number of postings in Africa. His father, until his death last year, also lived for 20 years in Zimbabwe.

[Republic of Texas]

He got elected the first time on a "get back at whitey" platform. (I'm sure they had a more official name, but I like to get to the point) Later, they did realize the error of their ways, so did the Germans in 1943. Since they did this to THEMSELVES, shouldn't it be their responsibility to fix it THEMSELVES? Isn't that what they wanted in the first place? SELF GOVERNENCE? Sometimes that means making hard choices.

I expect that in my lifetime, we in the US will need to overthrow our socialist government. Hopefully, when that time comes, we'll do it, and not whine for everyone to support us because we screwed up.

Africa had their chance with our help. It was called Somalia. They want us to support their stupid choices, then they kill the very people sent to help. They want self rule? Fine, have it. They'll find it's not as easy as complaining.

[Happygal]

Later, they did realize the error of their ways, so did the Germans in 1943. Since they did this to THEMSELVES, shouldn't it be their responsibility to fix it THEMSELVES? Isn't that what they wanted in the first place? SELF GOVERNENCE? Sometimes that means making hard choices.

As far as I recall the US and the Allied Forces went in assist in the removal of a despot from Germany!

[happygrl]

They will come to that, it is in the jeans.

There's my evidence that you're nothing but a racist.

And you're illiterate to boot. The term is "genes" not jeans, although in your case it seems that that is the area of the anatomy with which you reason.

[duckbutt]

I'm rather dismayed at the dialogue going on on this thread. No one in the world is more generous than the American people when it comes to helping out - - either war, fire, flood, famine.....that being said, how much should we assist a country where we know the food will go, not to the starving masses, but to the dictator, his cronies and his army?

Americans have been hoodwinked numerous times - - in our heart we don't want to know we've been screwed over time and again -- but maybe now, we're finally learning a lesson.

The people of Zim have to overturn their dictator -- any help we send until that time will not get to them -- that bastard will see to it it will rot or be sold before they get one mouthful.

But I did notice in that picture that "USA" was stamped on the sack of grain.....

I'm sure help will get to those people through private charities - - there is no stopping that if, indeed, the Zim government will allow it.

I don't think such food deployment should be done directly by the US government - - it will only serve to legitimize the government of Zimbabwe

[happygrl]

How do you explain Europe, which over the past thousand years has had religious wars, the Napoleanic wars, nazism and Communism, all of which led to the death of millions.

At the time our European forbears were still practicing human sacrifice in the British Isles and Northern Europe, the Ethiopians were Christianized by Phillip.

Someday when the west has had its day in the sun, there will be outposts of civilization, based on Christianity, in Asia and Africa.

[happygrl]

Excellent points made ! I am in agreement with all of them.

I, too, am dismayed at the dialogue. It is out and out racist in some of the posts.

If there is a western country that has some interest in intervening militarily, it is the UK. The U.S. should not be involved in that way.

However, the best answer is to support and arm the anti-Mugabe Zimbaweans living in South Africa, to enable them to restore democracy in Zimbabwe.

As for food aid, charities should begin now to establish refugee camps in South Africa, Mozambique and Botswana to feed the thousands who will shortly begin walking there.

Again, your analysis is right on spot !