[DB]

Poor Martin is going to be so disappointed when his vision doesn't come true.

What an idiot.

Many more freedoms were given up in WWII to fight a war of survival and yet we as a country managed to recover from that nicely.

[oldfart]

"Many more freedoms were given up in WWII to fight a war of survival and yet we as a country managed to recover from that nicely."

Actually, we didn't recover all that well. In hindsight, we now recognise FDR as a Socialist in Democrat clothing. The programs he began in the 1930s were "hardened" during the war and, with a few exceptons, simply continued as neccesary for the recovery.

How many government agencies were founded before and during the war? How many were disbanded and/or shut down after it? Some had their names changed but their duties and influence actually increased after the shooting stopped.

No, America was on a slippery slide toward Socialism before the war. The end of hostilities only provided a short slowing period, followed by the nose-dive we now find ourselves in.

[dcwusmc]

We did? Tax with-holding was a temporary wartime measure. Did IT go away yet? And that is but one example without even any extra thought on the matter. The idiots are those like you who cheer on big brother with no thought that it'll eventually come down to being YOUR turn. The water's fine, though. Nice and warm. Come on in and go swimming with us. Pay no mind to the chef with the apron over there. We'll get out of this big ol' pot long before we boil... so says Froggy...