[Slipjack]

You would be in the correct Zone if all of Americans were WORKING and plenty of work for others were available, but NOT NOW and NOT in the FORSEEABLE FUTURE…

Time to KICK/KEEP THEM OUT TILL THEN!!!

TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN FIRST BEFORE WE DO OTHERS!!!

[eno_]

What if "our own" are not the best? We should settle for mediocrity? According to the figures posted on this thread, the biggest H1-B requester is a nurse/home-health-aide agency. We have a well-documented labor shortage in these categories. Frankly, I'm sick of middle-aged geek-mediocrities who think they have a right to work forever on whatever obsolete 4GL they learned 7 years ago. These guys were not the best then and time has passed them by. They should form an engineers union like they have in Canada and Sweden. Yeah, that'll be better. As I pointed out, there are abuses where consultancies bring in warm bodies to bill more hours to their clients, but if the clients are too stupid to notice, what will change that situation? Should the Microsofts and Oracles be punished by not allowing them to bring in the elite from India, China, and Russia? Do you think Microsoft will hire those obsolete geeks? Ever been through a Microsoft interview? Those pseudo-nerds would last 5 minutes.