[optimistically_conservative]

I think we agree more than disagree.

I haven't seen the evidence that many H-1B recipients have left, or how many now hold permanent resident status and are working, unemployed, etc.

I am not advocating an end to immigration, and I support competing for the best globally. I just don't believe that's 195,000/year in H-1B visas alone.

Maybe it will correct itself - but I would like to see citizens of the US winning in a merit based economy, rather than importing them.

[eno_]

Maybe it will correct itself - but I would like to see citizens of the US winning in a merit based economy, rather than importing them.

School competition, home-schooling, and a return to high standards in education is the best thing we can do. If we instituted these reforms, we have the capacity in our education system to produce the best educated workforce in the world, by a wide margin. And we have the workforce, social, and geographic mobility to retrain and relocate as needs change. Right now, we are producing a generation of slackjawed self-esteem cases.