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To: 68 grunt
We first became of professor of psychology, Leonard Magruder

Students challenge professors on Vietnam

The student auxiliary at the University of Kansas Leonard Magruder - Founder/President Former professor of psychology - Suffolk College, N.Y.

STUDENT ORGANIZATION AT UNIV OF KANSAS LAUNCHES NATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO OVERTHROW DECADES OF ACADEMIC LYING ABOUT VIETNAM- CALLS FOR PROTEST IN WASHINGTON

Leonard Magruder, President of Vietnam Veterans for Academic Reform, the student auxiliary at the University of Kansas, today sent out 80 complimentary copies of his documentary, "How the Campus Lied about Vietnam," as requested by universities and vet organizations all over the country. This is part of a new national campaign by his organization to fight media bias against 3 new films that challenge the false view of the Vietnam War that has been institutionalized on campus to protect those who would not serve.

As reported in an Oct. 6 editorial in the "San Diego North County Times", "Vietnam Veterans for Academic Reform wants to provide Americans with a more accurate portrayal of the Vietnam War." Also, "They're asking college and high schools to include Vietnam veterans in class discussions ... the veterans' perspective is dramatically different from teachers who learned about the war from media coverage."

Said Mr. Magruder, "The campus version of the Vietnam War needs to be discredited because it is based on lies of the 60's now being rejuvenated and recycled to attack the nation's new war effort. This could lead to another polarization and defeat. This is also our response to the infamous "Not in Our Name" ad signed by many who were leaders in the 60's war protests calling the current war on terrorism "unjust, immoral, and illegitimate." These are the same words they used in the 60's to hand Southeast Asia over to genocide and tyranny."

Lisa Makson in an article in FrontPageMagazine.com said, "Everyone knows that American universities have become centers of political indoctrination, whose faculties regularly stomp on the academic freedom of their students."

David Horowitz, a former leader of the anti-war movement of the 60's expands on this. "Beginning in the mid-60's, the left made a concerted effort to take over our colleges and universities. Four decades later,they have a stranglehold on hiring, teaching, and administering most of our schools in all 50 states. As they took control they trampled free speech, banished conservative professors, and turned our schools into little more that huge megaphones for anti-American rhetoric."

With the recent more objective books and films about the Vietnam War, the veterans of that war can now show how faculty and students lied in the 60's leading to the current academic situation. With that, the entire edifice of indoctrination will come tumbling down. This must be done because, once again the leftist tyranny on campus is fatally misinterpreting the current world crisis, and this will again lead to disaster. For massive growing complaints nation-wide from students see www.noindoctrination.org.

At the anti-war protest in Washington on Oct. 26 protesters, mostly university people, shouted from the Vietnam Memorial (The Wall), "If these men were here today they would be with us." That is certainly not likely to be true of the vast majority represented by The Wall. In a recent poll of Vietnam vets by VFW Magazine, "90% of those who saw heavy combat are proud to have served their country. 66% said they would serve again if called upon." This effort by the protesters to falsely manipulate those who can't fight back is a disgrace. Said Mr. Magruder, "At the next demonstration coming up I would like to see 100,000 Vietnam vets form a line, away from the Wall, but between it and the protesters, to say, "These men would not be with you in your "Hate America" campaign. They gave their lives fighting for a just cause, the freedom of South Vietnam from Communist aggression from North Vietnam. You lied about them in the 60's and you are lying about them again. And what you are teaching about the war is a lie also."

About 80 organizations will initially be showing the Magruder film; universities, (such as Univ of Colorado, Duke Univ, American Univ, Univ of SC, Rutgers, Univ of NC-Chapel Hill), veteran organizations, (such as the Special Forces Association, 1st Marine Division Association, DAV, American Legion), and numerous university ROTC units. A number of the organizations said they would try to get the film shown campus-wide, and on television.

Said Mr. Magruder, "There are many forces in our society that would like to keep films like this from the public, the main offender being the university. For example, William Tuttle, professor of American Studies at the Univ of Kansas, who teaches about the Vietnam War, said in a recent edition of the local newspaper,"The one thing we know about the people who fought in Vietnam is that most of them were poor and black."(The Lawrence Journal World, July 15) Said Vietnam vet and former Sec of the Navy James Webb in a recent article "The common claim that it was minorities and the poor who were left to do the dirty work of military service in Vietnam is false. The main imbalance in the war was simply that the privileged avoided their obligations, and have persisted since that time in demeaning the experience in order to protect themselves from the judgment of history." When we sent out a university-wide e-mail quoting data from VFW Magazine that showed the Tuttle statement to be a gross error, there was no acknowledgment and no correction.

Chris White, a graduate teaching assistant in the department wrote back, "Please don't send me this hateful crap anymore." Facts are hateful crap to today's left leaning history departments.

The current flap between an Air Force cadet and a professor of history at St. Xavier University, drawing thousands of letters of protest from veterans, is another example of veterans speaking out when academics make public statements intended to further ideological agendas against America.

A polite request for information about a gathering of political scientists from an Air Force cadet was responded to by Professor Peter N. Kirstein in a typical leftist "Exorcist" reaction, with head spinning and rhetorical green vomit spewing: "You are a disgrace to this country and I am furious you would even think I would support you and your aggressive baby killing tactics of collateral damage. Help you recruit? Who, top guns who reign death and destruction upon nonwhite people throughout the world? Are you serious, sir? Resign your commission and serve your country with honor. No war, no air force cowards who bomb countries without AAA, (anti-aircraft) without possibility of retaliation. You are worse than the snipers. You are imperialists who are turning the whole damn world against us. Sept. 11 can be blamed in part for what you and your cohorts have done to the Palestinians, the VC, the Serbs, a retreating army as Basra. You are unworthy of my support."

THE VC !!! Every cliche in the leftist handbook, plus tears for the Viet Cong. It reminds us of what David Horowitz, a former anti-war leader wrote recently,"Make no mistake. We wanted Hanoi to win the war." The most rabid right-wing fundamentalist has nothing on a professor who has been "offended."Academics today are perpetually constipated with offense over something. But what is really impressive are the professor's rules of engagement. Only "cowards" drop bombs on people they can't see, and if the enemy runs out of anti-aircraft ammunition, to make the fight fair you have to wait until the enemy resupplies. Brilliant!

This is no aberration. The breakdown in logic like this is the norm on campus today, particularly in the social sciences. On top of that they imagine that they occupy some sort of moral high ground, when the average person can clearly see they are talking nonsense.

The President of the university apologized to the Air Force Academy and suspended the professor from teaching and his record will be reviewed next semester before teaching again. We would like to see a lot more of this.

In the 60's the soldiers couldn't respond, but they can this time. No more free rides. This time professors are going to have to defend their positions, without lying about those who serve.

Three documentaries have recently become available that seriously challenge the campus view of the Vietnam War.

The first new film was recently mentioned in a news item out of CNS News.com. Christel and Calvin Crane traveled 14,000 miles across America interviewing Vietnam vets, recorded in a four-part film, "The Long Way Home Project" with introductions by General H. Norman Schwarzkopf (ret.) and commentary by leading figures of the era and a number of prominent war historians. The film was the winner of the 2002 Houston International Film Festival.

The series contains a great deal of material that has been suppressed by the media and campus for decades, such as the positive developments in the years following the Tet Offensive, the success of the pacification program, the progress under Gen. Abrams, the improvement and successes of the South Vietnamese Army, President Thieu's bold land programs and arming of the South Vietnamese people, and the final betrayal of American and South Vietnamese sacrifices by anti-war elements in the U.S. Congress.

The four -volume set of films sells for $69.95. Information on it can be found at www.ourpatriots.com. or by calling 1-800-945-2478. Said the CNS press release, "So far there have been no agreements to broadcast the documentary."As of this writing the History Channel has turned it down.

The second documentary is "Silent Victory", produced by Don C. Hall and Annette R. Hall. A remarkable account on film of Company F- 51st Long Range Patrol(Airborne) - Infantry from a number of perspectives by members looking back 30 years, interspersed with actual footage of the unit in action in Vietnam. Especially revealing is the commentary by H. Norman Schwarzkopf and others on the Tet Offensive , the performance of the media and the anti-war movement. The film has won three awards at various film festivals, one reviewer telling the producers it had won "the highest rating ever." Yet all cable and major networks have returned the film to the producers marked "sight unseen." The film may be purchased at website www.i-served.com for $19.95.

The third recent documentary, "How the Campus Lied About the Vietnam War," was produced by Mr. Magruder, President of Vietnam Veterans for Academic Reform. In the mid 80's Mr. Magruder took his home movie camera to Vietnam vet parades in Chicago and Houston and interviewed 62 Vietnam veterans at random, asking them the question that had been studiously voided by the national media, "What do you think about the campus war protestors."Across the board the general response was that the position of the protesters was "false, hypocritical, and damaging to the war effort." ("The Stalwart", K.U. student newspaper). The film that resulted is a one hour representative sample from the 62 interviews. The vets tell how lies by the protesters created a stereotype of them that made it difficult to get jobs and fit back into society. They tell how they were shunned on campus, were attacked at airports, with many forced to hide the fact they were veterans. They tell how they found supplies from American universities in Viet Cong strongholds. They describe the war protests variously as "disgraceful," "unfair," "treasonous," "uninformed," and "demoralizing." They also tell how former war protesters wept in the streets with guilt at national parades, and had to be comforted by those marching. This phenomenon was never mentioned by the media or campus.

With this complimentary distribution the film "How the Campus Lied About Vietnam" is now available by sending $15 to the address below. Also available, the 60 page monograph by Mr. Magruder, (typed, single-spaced), "The War on the Home Front", battles fought at home by V.V.A.R. in support of those who served. $12. Send orders for either to Leonard Magruder, 933 1/2 Massachusetts St., Lawrence, Kansas, 66044. Shipping included. This is a non-profit organization. Proceeds will be used for our next project, a film on the Vietnam Symposium at the Univ. of New York - Stony Brook, the largest ever held. Mr. Magruder served as National Coordinator for this project.

97 posted on 01/04/2003 9:27:35 AM PST by 68 grunt
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To: 68 grunt
Joels response to Mr. Magruder:

Dear Mr. Magruder:

Please allow me to introduce myself.

My name is Joel Charles Kernodle. I am a 56 yr old USMC infantryman and combat veteran of Vietnam. I have a Purple Heart. I am a retired commercial/industrial finance executive. I live in Indianapolis. I am, and have been, President and co-founder of several civic and veterans organizations. I consider my service in Vietnam to be an honorable sacrifice in Patriotism. I consider the Phoenix-like rebirth of the radical left in protest of the burgeoning attempt of contemporary Patriots to protect this nation, our loved ones, and our way of life to be an enormous and egregious affront to true Americans and Vietnam Veterans and to the memory of our brothers who are forever enscribed upon The Wall these vile miscreants have defiled.

I am also President of the Indiana chapter of the 1st Marine Division Association. I understand tapes and/or information about your organizations efforts and accompanying text exposes of leftist propaganda from, in particular, academia have been given the 1st Marine Division Association. If this is true, please tell me to whom you have presented that to and whom you have been in contact with there. If possible, I would like very much to have whatever materials you will send to me regarding the matter of the offense and the counteroffensive of and to the fraudulent radical disinformants and protestors involved.

I believe in a very strong response to these vile and pathetic creatures, who seem bent upon the destruction of our nation's fabric. The next large gathering of this rabble at our beloved and sacred Wall and other monuments to our fallen military MUST be met with an overwhelming show of force [100,000 minimum] and solidarity; fronted by Vietnam Veterans. I intend to see that the "heads-up" for this gets around expeditously to my fellow Marines, whom I intend to see the "First To Fight" to counter these traitors and protect the honor and dignity of or fallen and our monuments to them.

To this all I would like to add it is with admiration and gratitude that I thank you for your considerable and tireless effort to present the TRUTH.

Respectfully,
Joel Charles Kernodle

pointmanherc@ameritech.net

98 posted on 01/04/2003 9:33:21 AM PST by 68 grunt
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