States Begin Crack Down on Home Schooling

Icehouse ^ | 01/03 | unknown

[hsmomx3]

H ome schoolers have long held the belief that if they received exemptions from the education laws being put in place at the state and federal level, they could safely teach their children at home without government interference. A good example of this is the exemption home schoolers achieved to HR 6 in 1994 and ESSHB 1209 bringing education reform to Washington State in 1993.

What home schoolers did not know, however, is that education reform was instituted to bring education into coalescence with systems governance, and under systems governance, all really does mean all ? no one can be exempted from inclusion in the system. That includes home schoolers.

Home schoolers believed the exemptions would protect them. A good example is the home schoolers in California. For years they have existed under the private schooling laws. Now, California is cracking down on home schoolers in order to bring them into the system. In other states that have home school laws, the matter of bringing home schoolers under the umbrella of systems education and government control will be as easy as requiring a certificate of mastery in order for the child to get a job, a drivers license, or go on to higher education. We are already seeing signs of that happening in Washington State. No doubt it is, or will, happen in other states with home school laws as well.

Home schoolers have not been exempted from the system, they have only been exempted from the laws putting the system in place.

[sport]

Did you vote for bill clinton twice and al gore once?

[antaresequity]

Thats all Im saying...homeschool kids look at SAT's and GED's as childs play...bring it on....

By the way...did you know that homeschoolers took the top three slots at the national spelling bee last year? (pretty sure it was last year)

[ApesForEvolution]

Sorry, read your assinine, socialist-script commentaries and couldn't help but dive in.

Just because a state government or the federal government robs taxpayers to make K-12 education (socialist indoctrination/daycare) 'available' does not mandate that anyone must hand them their children. Find me a constitutional mandate that forces anyone to hand their children over to the government for education. Homeschoolers repeatedly, across the board, blow the doors off of government schooled children..

[Lady Heron]

I'm not a teacher, nor am I a school administrator. In a matter as important as education, it is imperative that the educators be as qualified as possible. To assert that a parent is as qualified to teach as a trained educator is as fallacious as asserting that one may gain the skills necessary for heart surgery by studying books at the local library and be qualified to offer that service to a family member or the public.

Since test scores of home schoolers prove you wrong yearly. I would even say that the test prove that parents no matter of their education level have proven that they are more qualified to teach their children then trained educators are and that your reasoning is "fallacious". Until you can come up with a reason that proves why a teachers certificate is better than a parent who wants to give their child the best opportunity to succede in life you have no argument.

Since this is not college level education and we are not performing heart surgery your reasons make no sense. We are just beating the pants off public education which is no great feat, seeing how the worst college students choose to go into education because they could not hack it in a more difficult field, except for the few who have that calling. We are doing it with uneducated parents, so please explain why we need a teachers certificate? To bring us down to their level? I think not!

[glory]

I completely understand where you are coming from Lady. My son is a bit slow with language, but he is smart as a whip. He will NOT be going to a public school since I think he will be shuffled off into remedial classes for his whole schooling career over a late start in language. Something that would be meaningless and surmountable with time and more attention if children weren't overanalyzed so young in their lives.

[Bella_Bru]

And I don't understand why those who do homeschool insist on attacking those who don't, calling them unfit, etc.

Anyway, I need to actually break away from this desk and go home. See you later.

[Bella_Bru]

Remeber, CJ, if you aren't a homeschooler, you obviously hate your kids and you voted for Gore. Gotta love the FR "holier than thou" cheerleaders.

[netman]

About time. If private citizens wish to assume the functions of government, let them meet government standards. If I want to build my own house, I still need to comply with the applicable building codes.

Where in the constitution is the goverment given the power over the education of citizens. It doesn't, although it's assumed so by most sheeple in the country. The Fed takes the money for education out of the State and gives it back only if the State complies with its agenda..

[Bella_Bru]

Clean up the public school system before you have a right to say anything to me! Even then I will tell you to bug off until this becomes a communist country you have no right to tell me how to raise my children!

Take a valium. You are quite shrill.

[don-o]

Anyway, I need to actually break away from this desk and go home. See you later.

So, I guess my question will not be answered.

To Repeat: What is the state interest in educating my children?

Making them good soldiers and citizens?

Anything?

[Lady Heron]

All I think is that if you want to homeschool, your kids ahould have to pass the same exit exams that kids in private or public schools must pass.

They do. To get into college they have to take the SAT. or the ACT. We do not take the other local state test, because they test social questions(liberal, socialist, pc garbage) and thus the supreme court does not find that we need to take them. This has already been solved by the courts.

[ladylib]

You haven't left yet?

[Bella_Bru]

Don, I don't care what you teach your kids. Teach them whatever you want, just don't cry because MIT won't take them without an SAT (you know, that "evil gubmint" test).

[glory]

Well, that option stinks for those of us who have had complications in the past to pretty much take us out of the homebirth option. Oh well...

[Bella_Bru]

I keep trying....but FR is too damn addicting.

[RckyRaCoCo]

Granholm will have a pretty inneffective single term as Michigan's governor.

Hope you're right. But like any good Democrap, she'll take credit for everything that goes right in the state and blame everything that goes wrong on the "mean-spirited, children\senior citizen starving" repub. legislature. I had heard on the news today that she is already backpedalling on some of her campaign promises.

Perhaps this is good news.

An article in the paper a few weeks back talking about the required cuts due to state budget problems said smaller communities that require those state funds will be cut substantially, but Detroit was able to put in a freeze so they will be exempt from such cuts....how convenient, who's the idiot who signed that piece of garbage?

[ApesForEvolution]

Take a valium? Or let the government shove some ritalin into your children while we're at it, right? Talk about shrill. Let the government baby-sit your little ones if you want while they are indoctrinated into socialism...but why would someone purporting to be a conservative work against others working for educational freedom and excellence? Maybe you are afraid a new generation will grow up and overturn the socialist wagon and deprive you of your gravy-train??

[Lady Heron]

So....should your homeschooled kids have to take SATs to get into college, or should they just be let in because you say they can do the work? What's next? Homeschool universities?

Our kids take this test when they are ready for college. All universities require either the SAT or the ACT, at least all the ones I have come across including Conservatories. Where do you think we are getting our test scores from that prove that we out perform public and private education??

[ladylib]

That's true.

[ApesForEvolution]

"Teach them whatever you want, just don't cry because MIT won't take them without an SAT (you know, that "evil gubmint" test)."

Ha! All students must pass entry-exams to get into school, whether they were educated privately in a 'school', in a private 'collective', in a government 'charter' school or in any other government school. Who writes your material? It's not very good...