[Odile]

A shooting war is like unto major surgery on the body. It is to be used only as a last resort -- when all other attempts at "therapy" have failed.

Going over to the Middle East and killing Muslims will not help. We have MILLIONS of Muslims right HERE in the United States. They are ALL OVER Europe too.

Our FIRST priority SHOULD have been to outlaw the practice of Islam in the West. Close all the mosques. Deport all foreign born Islamics to the Middle East. Give the so-called American Muslims a clear choice: Either give up your American citizenship and go voluntarily to a Middle Eastern country of your choosing, OR be placed under surveillance and eventually be put into Internment Camps here in the US till this thing gets sorted out.

ISLAM is not RELIGION, it is a SUBVERSION.

John Adams was RIGHT when he pushed the Alienation and Seditions Act.

Abraham Lincoln was RIGHT when he suspended Habeas Corpus, thus defying a direct order from Chief Justice Roger Taney of the Supreme Court.

Woodrow Wilson was RIGHT when he banned the publication of views opposing his World War I policies.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt became a virtual dictator with a Rubber Stamp Congress to implement his every wish and wbim. He worked to blacken the reputation not only of those who sought to oppose him but of his highly virtuous PREDECESSOR, Herbert Hoover -- a good, decent, capable man -- who suffers still today from the Roosevelt Machine's incessant slander. YET, FDR is conidered to be one of our very greatest presidents. HE ordered the internment of the Nisei (Japanese Americans), and no one even IMAGINED that it was wrong.

Was HE right? Who knows?

The point is that "great" presidents in the past have acted outside the law and have evaded the principles of our Constitution any number of times. That is what great and courageous men with the courage of their convictions HAVE to do in times of extraordinary stress and imminjent danger.

[DAnconia55]

John Adams was RIGHT when he pushed the Alienation and Seditions Act. Abraham Lincoln was RIGHT when he suspended Habeas Corpus, thus defying a direct order from Chief Justice Roger Taney of the Supreme Court. Woodrow Wilson was RIGHT when he banned the publication of views opposing his World War I policies.

Wrong on all counts.

[steve-b]

Franklin Delano Roosevelt became a virtual dictator with a Rubber Stamp Congress to implement his every wish and whim.

And for those who think this was a good thing, there's the Democratic Underground.

The point is that "great" presidents in the past have acted outside the law and have evaded the principles of our Constitution any number of times.

Behold the FReeper who says that Bill Clinton was our greatest President.