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To: Precisian; onedoug
This is the voice of "Arminianism": Free Will...co-mixture of good and bad "tendencies" inside of us yada, yada...yada...Prager denies that we are born totally depraved, as Romanists do.

Speaking as a 'voice of Arminianism' myself, I can deny that quite handily. As an Arminian (an admittedly Wesleyan, Biblical, total depravity-believing one), I affirm with any Calvinist that man is 'very far gone from righteousness.' Free grace has always been the emphasis of "high" or Wesleyan-Arminianism. (I am including Arminius himself as a 'high' Arminian, though too early for a Wesleyan-Arminian.) The problem lies in the subtle deviation from that 'high' Arminianism among many churches into liberalism and semi- or full Pelagianism.

148 posted on 01/02/2003 12:13:52 AM PST by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian
Prager denies that we are born totally depraved, as Romanists do.

I'm not so sure he feels entirely that way...at least about men: Why Judaism Rejected Homosexuality.

157 posted on 01/02/2003 10:27:48 AM PST by onedoug
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