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To: JohnHuang2; JHavard; Havoc; OLD REGGIE; Iowegian; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; TrueBeliever9; ...
Third, if you believe that people are basically good, God and religion are morally unnecessary, even harmful. Why would basically good people need a God or religion to provide moral standards? Therefore, the crowd that believes in innate human goodness tends to either be secular or to reduce God and religion to social workers, providers of compassion rather than of moral standards and moral judgments.

That is why Satan LOVES that lie..

Psa 14:1   [[To the chief Musician, [A Psalm] of David.]] The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, [there is] none that doeth good.

    Rom 3:10   As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:   

  Rom 3:11   There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.   

  Rom 3:12   They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

116 posted on 01/01/2003 8:15:06 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Third, if you believe that people are basically good, God and religion are morally unnecessary, even harmful. Why would basically good people need a God or religion to provide moral standards? Therefore, the crowd that believes in innate human goodness tends to either be secular or to reduce God and religion to social workers, providers of compassion rather than of moral standards and moral judgments.

I not only believe we are not born "basically good", I believe we are born as selfish savages. Fortunately, we wouldn't survive without nurturing and support.

It is only after we gain a certain amount of maturity, enough that is, to be responsible for our actions, that we must be held accountable for our beliefs and actions.

IMO Baptism is meaningless with infants. On the other hand, I don't believe an infant who dies is damned.

Fortunately, I have a "Unitarian" philosophy which makes allowances for those who are "invincibly ignorant". He he.

135 posted on 01/01/2003 2:11:36 PM PST by OLD REGGIE
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