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To: Barnacle; tonmo; Pokey78
George W has said a lot of things that I like. But, how he’s allowing and in some ways even promoting the illegal alien invasion of America borders on treason.

Check your premises.

What IF: POTUS agrees with you and has demanded of the Joint Chiefs that they close the borders, and the most powerful military generals in the world have confided that they actually cannot be even 95% effective. Say he were to publicly mobilize and deploy (how COULD you do it silently?) And if it were not 100% effective and a large event occurs "post-closing?" How impotent would that make us look? I don't know that this is the scenario, but unless you actually believe that GW is a traitor, this reasoning is plausible.

Let's use a mechanical analogy for fun. Think of the economy as an engine, and motor oil as the lube of trade. Do you design a filter for the oil filler cap so that no impurities enter? Or do you design the best filter you can to clean out whatever might get into the sump (i.e. the new TSA)? Because, even if you filter out all incoming contaminants, you still have impurities from blow-by, internal condensation, and even by-products of "clean oil" (aka Lilly Whites like McVeigh).

For example of the latter, consider a fertilizer import. Do you halt it as contraband because McVeigh+terrorist trainer might build it into a bomb? Do you reject visas for incoming, but allow someone named "al Muhammed" or "McVeigh" to live freely and unsupervised in Chicago or Oklahoma City?

I suggest that a crackdown on the border necessarily is the first incrementalist step toward an internal crackdown the likes of which Butcher Reno could not even have dreamed of. Even if a "border closing party" was 100% successful, the next step would necessarily be to "cleanse" the interior of the country with the military. That GW does not take this first step actually makes me grateful.

Is that what we should be clamoring for? Usama would be.

02/01/2002 - Updated 07:35 AM ET NEW YORK (AP) — Osama bin Laden, in a previously unbroadcast interview done in late October, said of the U.S. war on terrorism : "I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in and the West in general into an unbearable hell and a choking life."

66 posted on 12/31/2002 8:52:48 AM PST by sam_paine
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To: sam_paine; 4Freedom; tonmo; Pokey78; WRhine; Brad's Gramma; Tauzero
I should check my premise? You mis-stated my premise. Why? I presume in order to create a strawman open to easy attack.

Where did I say close the borders?

Second; You appear to believe that we have to be 100% successful on the border or we’ll look “impotent”. That makes as much sense as a football coach saying, “We won’t put our defense on the field because if the other team scores a touchdown we’ll look damned silly.”

As 4Freedom so eloquently stated, “The measly 1,400 National Guard that were on the southern border after 9/11 reduced illegal alien crossings by 30% and had a similar effect on drug smuggling. So, what does Bush do? He sends them home, of course”

Third; I did not say that G.W. Bush is a traitor. Nor do I believe he is. But, how many people on Free Republic would be calling Gore a traitor if this policy were being carried out under his watch? I regret to say many would. The reason I say “regret” is that this phenomenon is indicative of “groupyism” that is inherent in human nature. We often see the, “It’s OK when my guy does it.” attitude in politics. And yes, Conservatives can be guilty of it too. We are human aren’t we?

As to your Osama quote, the quickest way to bring his nightmare to fruitition is for this governamnt to continue down the path of poor border security so that everyone becomes is a suspect - and that includes you and me. The government has continues to blur the distinction between citizen and alien.

And as a famous man once said: “A government that treats aliens like citizens, will ultimately treat its citizens like aliens.”

I do like your filter analogy. But it’s time

We replace this,

With this.


Navigating the treacherous
waters of a liberal culture.

71 posted on 12/31/2002 11:14:01 AM PST by Barnacle
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